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Host and Speaker Of Life Up Education TV: Natsune Oki AKA The Self Domination Boss – S2E27 (#55)

Don’t get intimidated by no one. Just because they make more money than you doesn’t mean that they’re happy inside and happiness is really the key.

In Season 2, Episode 27 of the Boss Uncaged Podcast, S.A. Grant sits down with Host & Speaker of Life Up Education, Natsune Oki.


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S2E27 – Natsune Oki – powered by Happy Scribe

Good over here. Everything’s good here. Yeah, all right, let’s go. Three, two, one. Welcome welcome back to Boston College. Today, we have a guest. Way, way, way on the other side of the world from Tokyo, Japan. Not today. We want to welcome you to our episode and want to give our people a little bit inside of who you are and what you do.

Yeah, sure. Thank you very much for having me. My name is not OK. I’m a managing director of Foreign Kinect, which is a business agency that I have in Tokyo that helps Japanese companies to launch and expand businesses by providing them international project management service, listening to them, developing their state projects on the lot as well. And then I also have a media call that I have education, TV and within the same domain. I also published a book called The Game of Self Domination.

So, I mean, that’s that’s a mouthful. And it’s a lot of tentacles going on. So this is kind of like like cut that up a little bit. So you’re essentially helping entrepreneurs on multiple different facets. Right. So how did you even get into that that model? Where did your journey really start?

Oh. The journey, well, in terms of helping entrepreneurs, I agree, I want to talk more about life, education, TV and just the media in general that I have this one basically talks about. How can we how can I contribute to create the maximum contribution to I’m sorry to meet them if you let me start over again? OK, OK. So in terms of helping entrepreneurs, technically, I want to talk about education theby. This is a media that talks about.

And maximizing the capability of humanity from the perspective of the arts and science, and when I say that actually it comes from my very personal journey of how I was able to make personal transformation in my mindset from kind of being scared to just like, you know, going at it, like going at my dream and just running after the inspiration. And one thing I noticed is that I’m very excited about a future. That is because I have a background in working in tech like startup environment.

I was heavily involved in involved in that kind of environment when I was working in Seattle. So I met and worked with a lot of tech entrepreneurs and investors who were changing the world that only by using technology. And I was very inspired by it. And that basically left me this imprint to be really excited about the future. Basically, when I think of a future, that is because I associate that with creation imagination, something that we haven’t seen yet.

Right. And when we look at history, the past, that is data. That is knowledge. That is where we’ve been already, something that we already know. Right. And me being like really courageous and curious person, I’m way more excited about where can we go? How can I be helpful to take the humanity to the next level? So that’s kind of macro talk. But basically the mission of my media predicates on that where I want to talk about, like, inspiration in a sense that it’s it all starts from emotion.

Right. And then also some practicality that’s tied with the science part of it. So I would talk about what is your inspiration and also how to get there, how to get to your ambition of the art, ambition of your inspiration. Does that make sense?

It definitely makes sense and it makes sense why you have so many different tentacles. So let’s let’s take it back even further. So were you born in Japan or were you born in the U.S.? Where were you born? And kind of what was your upbringing like?

Yeah, I was I was born and raised in Japan, I grew up in Japan entirely. I went to high school here in Japan, which I almost got kicked out, which I mentioned in my book. But I was definitely without trying, I, I was always, like, really different. Like, I felt like I didn’t fit in, especially in this culture. And at the time I already knew that I had to kind of get out of this community because I wasn’t succeeding in this community.

And I knew that there was something outside, but I just didn’t know at the time, like, I thought it was all here and I was a loser. But I finally gained the courage to just go abroad, like go to the United States. And at the time, I didn’t have any anything really. Like, I didn’t even speak the language. I didn’t know what what I was going to happen. But I just jumped on the plane and figured out, well, basically, I decided to study business there.

And so I did the first two years in business. And then I took some time off to actually gain some real work experience and then being surrounded by the entrepreneurial community where I truly found my passion in entrepreneurship. And then Furter because I was surrounded by so many tech entrepreneurs, something I realized was I was not logical, I was very emotional and I wanted to gain that logical thinking. I wanted to gain that specific skill because I was really I have always been interested in people more than money.

So when it comes to when it comes to my mission, I always think about people more than individual gain a monetary motivation. Right. And economy actually is a perfect study for it because it counts for a little bit of business. A little bit of education definitely counts for people, people, part of the society. Right. So that’s why I decided to pursue economics, to gain the logical thinking and also to really gain the skill, to be able to think what is needed for the humanity, for us to move forward to the next level as a macro.

And that’s why I pursued economics. And then after that, I basically started working for this business consulting company in America. And I was only Japanese there. And there was like a bunch of other people from all the all nationalities. And that experience taught me a lot. And me coming from Japan also definitely added like another dynamic into the team. So it was really interesting to see how I fit in in that kind of place. Right. And then after that, basically I came back and then I was doing what I was doing the same thing.

And then at some point I decided to fund my own fashion brand, which I kind of closed earlier this year. I’m going to open up, opening up back again. And then basically I wanted to just, like, make what I was doing as my own business. So that’s what I call for now. And yeah. And then I also wanted to start my media with a book. So that also happened around the same time.

Yes. I mean, again, that’s that’s a lot of different avenues that that you went down. And the fact that you’re juggling all these things is absolutely amazing. Right. So in that space, you’re talking about international waters, essentially like you live in Japan. But I would think that some of your clients may still be in the US and you probably have clients globally as well. So how do you like how is your business structured? I mean, like all of it is Japanese right now.

It is, yeah. And the reason I’m trying to develop the real estate project Sundanese is that is because maybe I maybe maybe this is still ideal ADFIS. I probably shouldn’t open it up. But basically what I want to do essentially is finding investors from Japan and basically connecting them with like a local government backed private companies who invest in properties of like government projects. So that’s kind of the another project that I’m developing underneath the foreign connect.

So the foreign canek essentially is going to be your bridge for a more global platform.

Yeah, yeah. For yeah, sure.

Great. Great. So, I mean, so are you doing all this by yourself? Do you have any business partners or. This is just all full partner and then you’re growing out when you’re outsourcing everything.

But yeah, I’m doing it in a consultancy way right now. I think eventually what I want to happen, what I want this to happen is like within the next five years, probably, possibly more. I definitely want to grow into like still consulting agency, but I definitely want to have more consultants underneath me. So that’s my goal.

So being that you’re the epicenter of your company, I mean, how are you overcoming hurdles right now?

I think I mean, it’s I think, to be honest with you, it’s just a lot of, like, mindset and also like how not seriously I am when it comes to life, like I feel like I feel like I have nothing to lose all the time. And I think that’s probably one of my strongest weapon, to be honest with you. I don’t have like this like texted like try this like more, Soledad, because every day is hard.

I kind of like my tool is very like basic like that. My yeah. My mental tool to fight against it is very, very basic like that.

So you’re big on mindset and you’re big on like laws of attraction. So I mean, that makes that makes perfect sense. So on your journey. Right. We always hear about someone taking what you got.

Yeah. So I’m not really a big law of attraction, but I do believe that such a thing exists. And I read something interesting actually. I read that like, for example, when we consider quantum physics, we don’t know if we consider quantum physics. We are not the tangible matters. Right. And then we are just the small like bunch of small particles moving together, like making the movie moves within our entity. That’s why we feel like it’s a tangible thing.

And actually, if you look at it even farther, closer, apparently you are stardust. And that’s interesting. Right. And when you think about it like that, like, I know that there’s something out there that we don’t understand with our capability of intellect right now that exist. And somehow that makes sense of like affirmation, like energy, like someone thinking of something definitely connects with something else because everything is basically. Particles and then everything is like moving together.

Does that make sense?

So, I mean, on that topic, I mean, you don’t think that I guess the laws of attraction is defining that without knowing what it is? Right. It’s kind of like this sixth sense that people have in connections between thinking positive and moving in that direction. And then by default, this thing kind of happens. You have to take actions to get there. But to your point, talking about particles in space does it could be a whole nother element that we don’t even know that exists and is being defined by the laws of attraction because they don’t know how to define it.

Yeah, exactly, so I think that’s a more topic of physics than like what we can see today. So that’s interesting thought I had, but yeah, definitely like you said, I think it’s a little bit of, you know, really the DNA attraction is maybe a little bit of physics, but also definitely a lot of it is psychology.

So going into the next question, right. So we always hear about someone taking 20 years to become successful, but the perception of that is always usually an overnight success. How long have you been on your journey to get to where you are currently?

Well, like I said, everything is still kind of like sort of face like it was written here. So I have basically been working like I am for two years. Three years. Yeah.

So I’ve been behind. I mean, I’m just looking at your platform. I mean, obviously you’re on Facebook, you’re on tick tock, you’re on clubhouse, you’re on YouTube, you have the foreign connection, you have life up education, TV, just to name a few of your different platforms. So you’ve been working on all these platforms for essentially the last two years.

So life started later because before that I had the clothing company clothing brand, which at the time I already had the connect to, but I was working like the same time. But life only started. You send me actually I started it like right there on Korona.

So I mean, how are you managing your scheduling? Because, I mean, I look like a YouTube channel. I like I think you just posted something a couple of hours ago, right before this year. So, I mean, like, how are you juggling that? You have, like, scheduling software, like how are you managing all the content that you’re developing?

Yeah, well, actually, yeah, I just do like scheduling platform. I think it’s called what I actually use a few of them, but it’s a social suite and leader like those are the three I use for social media YouTube. I just take a bunch of videos during the weekends and just post it. But it’s a lot of distribution, right. As you know, like media has a lot of distribution, then I, I believe that. So I just make a bunch of content, like I’m talking about 70 like 80 of them in the weekend.

So one weekend and I’m just going to distribute in all channels that I possibly could.

Yeah. I mean, in addition to your distribution strategy, I mean, you found me on matchmaker and matchmaker for Anybody Doesn’t Know is a podcast network that allows other podcasters to find podcasters. So you’re on that platform and you’re also actively searching for opportunities as well. So let’s talk about that. I mean, like, why did you pick this podcast as one of the podcasts to reach out to?

Well, I was reaching out to Pakistan can talk about mindset and I can talk about more in a casual setting, right. And that needs to like entrepreneurship and business field, because that’s often it seems that my message appeared the most to me. That’s how I found you.

Got you. I mean, I think it definitely does. I mean, one, you have the woman empowerment side. On the other side, you have the entrepreneur side. And then the third element would be like just a general mindset of how you have to push through hurdles when they present themselves. And I think that you’re definitely on that journey to kind of keep moving forward with that. What would you do differently if you could do it all over again?

I got to say, I don’t think I would change anything like let’s say that I’m 50 or 60 years old, I don’t even think that I would want to change it a bit like anything of my life. And that’s because I don’t feel like whatever is not happening to my life right now. It’s not happening like I I don’t think life is how it should be, like I think it was just how it is. And I can romanticize, like, how hard my life is.

I can understand how nice things should happen to me, like all that, but like it’s not happening. So why am I even bothering thinking about it. So if I have the time to do that, I never I much love to spend the very same time to just hustle and work to make things happen, actually, you know, so in that mindset, I think that’s where a lot of people, I think, fall into this trap of like formal.

Right. Like, they feel like they’re missing out, like they feel like they’re not doing enough. But in reality, like you can think all that. But thinking about it doesn’t make that happen. Like whatever you want happen and you’re exactly where you should be in life. That’s that’s what I think. And I don’t think you’re ready for the success even that you wish. So that’s just kind of my life be and I don’t have that. I should have done this differently because I just don’t know the alternative.

Like, what would happen if I did something different? I don’t know. I might die.

I mean, it’s funny that you brought that up and going back to, like, physics a little bit, it kind of makes me think of a like parallel universe is like if I do one thing differently versus what I’ve done, what would that life be like versus the life that I currently have? And to be able to see into these parallel universes and make the right choices would be a definitely interesting lifestyle to live. So you’re an entrepreneur, you’re a hell of an entrepreneur.

You’re like you’re hustle is real. Does that come from your family? Does anybody in your family owned a business and entrepreneurs down your bloodline?

Yeah, and if you think about it like it’s always been entrepreneurship, like it’s only the last 50 or 60 years where the concept of a company even existed. Right. But given that. Yeah, like my dad is entrepreneur, my grandparents both to be an entrepreneur before that, I have no idea of what I know so far. Yeah. Everybody’s been entrepreneur from my dad’s side especially.

So what kind of business did your dad have?

Here’s transportation business in Japan, so he transformed transport things. Yeah, I don’t know much about it, to be honest with you. My mom is very stable, like really nine to five kind of woman and I actually grew up with are way closer like a girl grow up way closer to her than my dad. Like, I didn’t even see him that much.

So going into family a little bit more. But how do you juggle your work life with your family?

Oh, for me, I don’t know, like I just like like honestly, to be honest, I feel like I’m not doing a good job on that, to be honest, especially my dad, I, I should probably make a little bit more. But, you know, at the end of the day, I do my best and that’s it. That’s what I can do. And I occasionally, definitely sometimes send the message saying like, hey, like I love you.

And, you know, the thing is like one day I remember I definitely I sent my mom message saying, like, you know, even if I’m so depressed, even if, like, she gets real, even if I’m so sad, I don’t think I can be that sad just because I’m your daughter. And I really feel like she’s so amazing. And she gave me so much like love. I can never be so cynical. I can never be so not negative because I just don’t know what it’s like to be that dark because my mom and my dad got me, you know.

Yeah. So I sometimes send them message saying stuff like that.

So I mean just, just going as I mean right now in Tokyo, it’s essentially we’re 14 hours ahead. So it’s what, ten, twenty four pm. Yeah. So I mean obviously I think your day is a long you’re out, you’re on a podcast right now. It’s eight eight twenty four a.m. my time. Ten twenty four. Your time. What is your morning routines. Look like your morning habit.

Since there’s a quarantine, I try to get out the house to walk a little bit around the house, I usually like I used to before quarantine, I actually went to the gym every day four or five times a week. So I’m pretty active and likes to move. So in this walk, I usually take an hour. I probably walk like three km. So that’s in the morning. I drink coffee, I look at my goals, I write down my goals and I break them down into tasks and I just look at them every day.

And pretty much that’s it. That’s what I do.

So talking about your goals and your tasks, I mean, what does that look like? I mean, is that effective for you right now, your goals every day and then checking them off every single day?

Yeah, it’s very effective. I think it kind of like puts me into focus again and yeah, like it’s it’s interesting, though, like when you do it, like dial dialing your priority changes, like before I was about like, you know, living this kind of lifestyle, like, you know, making this much money like Revera. But now it’s kind of like shit like I just want to be nice to people. It’s that basic. But like really like that’s the first thing I always, not always, but many times I realize myself writing is like like I just want to be happy.

I just want to make people happy like something. The gratefulness, I guess, because I’m feeling it every day, like I just feel like genuinely I want to create that feeling to other people.

So, I mean, I think that it leads us into the next thing. And because of this, this podcast is giving me opportunity to I wanted to develop a book club. So and what I found out is like not a 10 people that I interview on this podcast, they always either writing books, reading books, listening to books, or they have books to recommend. So going into that, I mean, you’re author as well. I mean, what what book did you just release and what books would you recommend to our audience?

Yeah. So the book I released just now, just now released on September, is called The Game Also Dominations. Sorry, the night is kind of right. Yeah, it’s called The Game of Self Domination, which is pretty thick book.

Yeah, it has one hundred something pages. One hundred fifty probably three hundred, three hundred pages. Just I don’t know what I was thinking but no don’t freak out because I have double space I think. But anyway, so this is a book I talk about how one can create mental transformation in three different phases. The first phase I talk about. It’s all about, it’s all about emotion. So first phase I talk about is it’s all about emotion, like fuck logic and this phase.

So what I want you to do is build up enough emotion that you just committed regardless of the risk, regardless of whatever, like regardless of the nonsense and thus the level of commitment or the emotion you need to commit to something. In order for you to do that, you need the inspiration and desperation, desperation and a sense that enough is enough like I got if I can change. Right. And then inspiration in a sense that like it is possible to achieve and your inspiration needs to exceed your desperation because all you think about is the aspiration you would never try.

So yeah. To be like, oh, this is fucking like this is shit. Yes. OK, I can make a change. I know that I can make it happen. So that’s the optimal state you want to be in in the first place. And basically in this book I would give you a different questions, different scenarios, different stories for you to think in your own term to create this kind of emotion. And the second phase, I talk about perseverance.

Now we are talking about not the positive thinking, not the emotional thinking. We’re talking about perseverance here, which is Chigas gets hard. So you need to really understand what is actually going on. And so in this phase, we we start by talking about the importance of self awareness because things get hard. You need to really understand who you are about what you want to be like, what you are about, and you need to really create alignment with who you are and the direction you’re heading to.

And then also one thing that’s very powerful is the power of self talk to. Right, because things happen. And in the end of the day, like these actions, failure, like all that happens. And then the final filter you go through is always self talk when you face that. So I basically tell people how they can fight against those voices by telling you that you don’t mean shit like that and things don’t mean anything like don’t worry. But, you know, this Zen approach, kind of like Eastern philosophy little bit.

And then because I come from this business and economics background, I basically wanted to know if there’s a way to use this business thinking and business strategy into life strategy. So I laid out this method. I called a method where it is a consist of five different concepts from different business and economics people and even company that was actually used, practically used in their business operation. And I took all of them to create this scoring system that people can use to manage their life and just add some efficiency organization in their goal setting and goals.

But this is really I am providing so that you don’t have to practice it all the time, like I’m providing you so that you can extract thinking out of it, like I want you to get out of this. Is this thinking. So I want to set your brain to think in terms of the profitability, think in terms of the long term return, like short term return, like so very much business thinking into life strategy, like what happen when you use these matrix to capture your life strategy.

So that’s what I. And then finally moving onto the third phase, I start talking about, so what is success like, what is happiness mean to you? It’s super subjective. But during this journey, we cover many topics. We cover about like, you know, like what is your ambition, what you want to achieve, like monetarily, like, materialistically like. And then all that we talk, all of that. But finally, at the end of the day, whatever you achieve, it’s not going to make you happy forever.

So that’s basically the sort of face I talk about. It’s defining happiness because there’s a lot of talk around the defining failure, but there’s not enough talk about happiness. So that’s what I talk about in the surface and pretty noticeable.

So who would you recommend should get that book?

I think everybody can benefit from it, but I don’t recommend I do have those people, too. Who I don’t recommend is people who. Wants to be just, you know, rich quick tomorrow and call it good, like, no, this is but this book is not for you. And then the second group that I don’t recommend is people who like to stay, stay like who likes to stay reasonable people who doesn’t likes to be told, like go for something unreasonable.

So these are the type of people I don’t recommend. But other than that, if you don’t fit into this category, I think this book is great for anyone.

So with that book, I mean, it seems like there’s a lot of you in that book, right? You put a lot of your philosophies, a lot of your ideologies. You put a lot of the things that you learned over the years. Are there any of the books that influenced you on that journey to create your current book?

Yeah, so there’s a lot, actually. But one book, actually, one big difference I directly made within this book is from Shawn Uecker. He is a he’s a happiness psychologist. He, um, I think he says that teaching at Harvard University and he did a bunch of study and tests around psychology specifically about happiness. And he consults company on that matter to like human resources, like he consults Samsung and Google, like companies like that, actually use his method to basically gain more productivity.

Right. For the employees. But, yeah, that was a good book that I read. I comment. It’s called Happiness Advantage.

So I think we’re sort of talking you talk about you have like a give away for that book. You want to go ahead and announce what the giveaway is at this time so people could I mean, now that it’s fresh and you described the book, this is the key time to go ahead and send out that link.

Yeah. So I will actually give you the link so people can go there to read the description of what they need to do to enter for the giveaway. But basically all I ask is your email, like your basically contact info and also your Amazon review. And we are giving away some copy of ebooks.

Nice. Nice. So I mean, you’re on a hell of a journey or a hell of a direction. You’re on a budget. Pretty much. You’re in a bull market. Right. You’re heading north. Where do you see yourself in 20 years?

20 years, 20 years from now, where do you.

Maybe I’ll be dead. I don’t know. I can predict future man, but 10 years definitely. I kind of feel like. Oh, not feel like. But definitely my gold is moving into more of like a state investment direction, you know, basically connecting the Japanese investors into the American market. American that as they drop me the market. I also want to talk at the university about psychology, though not business, to be honest. But yeah, that’s kind of a nice thing.

If I could achieve you know, nothing is definite at this time. I think it’s kind of stupid to have vision that far way out because you could die tomorrow. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I do like you.

I got you. Yeah. So this say I’m a young person and I’m looking to you for inspiration and I’m trying to figure out my next steps, whether I’m graduating from high school, coming out of college. Maybe I’m already in the workforce, maybe I’m even older and I’m thinking about changing direction. I want to become an entrepreneur. What words of wisdom would you give to someone like that to help them continue moving forward?

I think and I know exactly what I want to say, but I don’t know how to word it out. I think it’s about insecurity, I think. Don’t get intimidated by no one. Because just because they make more money than you doesn’t mean that they’re happy inside and happiness is really the key. Like, in the end of the day, the definition of success, I think my conclusion is happiness and. You know, when you pitch to Mr. when you talk to the founders, sometimes, maybe these people seem so smart, like you get a little bit intimidated or even clients like turning it down.

Everything like that happens all the time, like ninety nine percent, especially when you’re just starting out. But don’t get discouraged or don’t get intimidated. Don’t be shy. You know, treat them like you’re the same position as you they are because in the end, like humans are human, no one’s better than no one really. I’m talking about like really no one. So just because they have this money, like I said, don’t just assume that they’re happy inside.

That’s it. And I think that that helps me a lot. Like whenever I get action, whenever I get you know, whenever I put something and someone, like, told me like, this is whatever, I just feel like whatever like it just doesn’t mean anything to me, you know?

I mean, that’s a powerful train of thought. I mean, to be able to hear someone saying that your philosophy or your ideas are shit or the hell would you I’m going to say, no, I don’t want your business structure. And I still to keep moving and to look past it. I mean, that’s you create success is to continue on that journey without letting anybody deter you from moving forward. Yeah. So looking at like all your platforms, I mean, like, how could people get in contact?

You I mean, what’s your Facebook, Instagram, Instagram, your Snapchat. I mean, I mean literally you have all the platform. So which is the predominant ones that you use and which ones do you want to go ahead and give to our audience.

Yeah, well, Dominion is a dominant one I use as Instagram and I am, like you said, also on tick, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and yeah. Instagram the name, huh.


Well, yeah, in the clubhouse, the name you can find me. And there is that I have it on TV and on Dreamhouse. It’s not in it. OK. No it’s not Tony.

Great, great. So just going into the bonus rounds, right? And bonus questions, and this is the question that, like I always make the statement that I always ask this question because everyone’s answer is uniquely different and it gives a different inspiration. So if you could spend 24 hours in a day with anybody dead or alive, who would it be and why?

Right. Just one one person, just one person. I mean, obviously, this is just one person.

Honestly, I get asked this question sometimes and each time my answer is kind of different, but now I have to say Gary like me, because I just saw his video and. Like he is powerful. I think like his positivity, his perseverance, like his like entrepreneurship, like he’s just really hard, like he’s just like mentally really hard. Right. I feel like I can punch him with a rock and he will come back. And that’s really cool, except I won’t get that.

But yeah, that’s why I would choose him.

Everybody I mean, Gary is a hell of an entrepreneur. And just to think that he started out with wine and now he’s like a marketing mogul, it was a great experience to be to see it in our time frame in our lifetime. To see how he transitioned is definitely inspiring. Going into another bonus question, what is your most significant achievement to date?

Significant achievement today. Something that’s important to me, right? I would definitely say I would definitely say just moving to America by myself without knowing no one or Dunwich, I think that was just the beginning of everything for me. So I would still choose over everything. Right. So that was the beginning.

Great, great answer. So this is a time of the podcast where the person I’m interviewing, I give you the microphone and obviously we had a lot of different conversation of different topics in that journey. You may have had questions for me. So now the microphone is yours and you can ask me any questions that you may have had.

Perfect, so let’s see. What do you wish to achieve with doing everything you’re doing today?

With me essentially helping my niche market, which is business owners, entrepreneurs, startup executives, and everybody is on different journeys, and I think that this podcast can kind of bridge from people that are multimillionaires, the people that are on the verge of being billionaires to someone that’s coming out of high school and they’re starting their first clothing line on online. So my goal is essentially bridging the gap between all these different platforms. Hence why the title of the podcast is called Bosson Katch.

It’s breaking out of that shell and becoming what you want to be later on.

What do you have any Mintern, the Eurocopter?

Yeah, that I’ve had dozens of mentors over over my lifetime as of recently, have actually had opportunities to interview a couple of them. So Greg SESAR was one of my mentors, interviewed him last season. High Colon is another mentor of mine that I interviewed earlier in the season. And just seeing what they’ve achieved and their formulas and their systems and just the way they’ve nitsch down to particular markets and understanding their philosophies. I’ve took pieces of their models and I’ve infuse it in my.

That’s good. Who is doing by, like, for your dinner, like, if you could invite anyone? One person.

So it’s funny that you asked that question because people have always turned the microphone on me and asked me that question. So in the past, I’ve said Einstein for multiple different reasons. Recently I’ve said Elon Musk for obvious reasons as well. And you would think, you know what, my background, I’m a designer and I’m a creative, but I really enjoy the analytical side as well. And just seeing Einstein and seeing Elon Musk and seeing their lives and seeing what they’ve accomplished, they’ve done a lot of creative things.

But it always goes back to like the logical stuff, right? I mean, Elon is working on, like, space technology to get people to Mars once the Earth is completely destroyed or whatever you have somewhere else to move onto. But he didn’t start there and he started off like what was like PayPal. He started off with all these other different business ventures that he keeps compounding and compounding to get to that ultimate goal of kind of like saving humanity.

I look at him as kind of like the Iron Man of our times. So that just kind of gives me that insight to say right now. And today I would want to sit down with Elon Musk, maybe even be a fly on the wall and just listen to his the way he thinks, the way he idealizes different things and the way he structures his day and just understanding like how could you be like everyone else and compound as much as you’ve done in the same period of time that everybody else has.

And you’ve done 25 different things and all of them have been successful.

I see the good and so appreciate me here. I definitely appreciate you reaching out. I appreciate having you on the podcast. I think it was definitely a great episode. I think like you, woman empowerment. I mean, you entrepreneurism. And I look forward to seeing what else you’re going to accomplish and moving forward.

Thank you. Yeah, same here. Thank you so much for having me.

Appreciate it. That’s a grant over and out.