Boss Uncaged Is Celebrating its 100th Episode (LIVE) With S. A. Grant Of Boss Uncaged: Motivated & Focused Growth Edition – S3E04 (#100)

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Boss Uncaged is a weekly podcast that releases the origin stories of business owners and entrepreneurs as they become uncaged trailblazers. In each episode, our hosts, S.A Grant and guests, construct narrative accounts of their collective business journeys and growth strategies, learn key success habits, and how to stay motivated through failure, all while developing a Boss uncaged mindset. Break out of your cage and welcome our host, S.A Grant.

Okay. Welcome back to Boss Uncage podcast. This is the 100 episode. So this is kind of like a celebration, kind of like a little happy dance. I got my caffeine shots earlier today, so I am twitching. Something serious in this bad boy. Let’s see what’s going on with the cameras. Obviously, the cameras are acting a fool, so I’m going to have to switch them out live, see if this will work. There I go. I’m live on the camera. All right, so today is the 100 episode. So I want to kind of switch things up like I like to do from time to time. So today what I’m going to do is just kind of just tell some stories. I’m going to go over what lessons that we learned so far on this journey of podcasting and what mistakes that we made. I’m going to talk about our favorite episodes and why and then probably take a shot. Because the reality is I never thought we were going to make it to 100 episodes to begin with. It was kind of a concept that I threw out there. So first and foremost, I just definitely want to thank everyone that’s an active listener love the feedback, I love the insight.

I love getting little text messages and the comments and emails. And again, this podcast is essentially for you. It’s for business owners and entrepreneurs to help you on your journey by hearing other people’s stories, other people’s overcoming of their hurdles, things that they would do differently, they could do it again. And just their insights, their words of wisdom to kind of help you jump start. And if you’re not an entrepreneur and you’re listening to it by default, you are entrepreneur because you are listening to it. You’re just waiting to jump that broom. So just going into it, the first thing that I want to talk about is, what did we really learn? We’re going into season three that just recently started, and season three is a pretty decent planned out season right. Comparison to our season one, where that’s the main thing that I want to talk about is the limitations, right? And season one, I think the biggest thing that I could take away that I learned from season one and season two was surrounding myself with people that will stretch my vision and I stretch other people’s vision. But there’s always another level.

There’s always somebody above you or somebody that you can strive for, somebody that you can reach out to, to talk to, and to get more insight to develop what you’re trying to do, right? Because I’m not the first person to do podcasting, and I’m not going to be the last person to do podcasting. But you could always do podcasting better. You could always do marketing better. You could always do whatever you’re doing better. So as the story goes, right back in 2019, right before Boston Cage was even in existence, my wife and I, we went to a podcasting convention because again, I was thinking about it, but I wasn’t 100% sure. So we went to this convention in Atlanta, and it was a couple of different speakers. There was a round table, there was different information, there was a bunch of other podcasters talking about. And again, I was really green at the time. So I’m sitting down and this guy walks across the stage and he starts talking about podcasting nonchalantly, but matter of fact at the same time. And you could tell that he’s been doing podcasts for a period of time. Come to find out, this guy’s name is Chris Cremenzo, right?

And at the time, I didn’t know who he was and like, how long he’s been in industry, and I didn’t know all his nuances and accurate at the time. So he’s talking on stage back in like, probably October, I think it was October of 2019. So he’s promoting his book, and a lot of the strategies he’s talking about were resonating with me. And then shortly after February 2020 is when we released the Boston Cage podcast. And he had a real big part of it. He had a book at the time. I read the book, took some insights from it. I was like, I got nothing else to lose. Let me go ahead and jump and create this podcast. So, first of all, I want to say thanks to Chris. If it wasn’t for Chris, on that particular day, we may not have been where we are right now. Everything happens for a reason. We just happened to be at a convention. He just happened to be there because, again, he’s from Florida and he was in Georgia. So, like, the alignment of the moon, the stars, and everything was just perfectly aligned at that point in time for us to cross paths.

So fast forward, right? So this happened. February 2020 was when we launched Austin Cage for the first time. Meeting Chris was essentially October 2019. So if you go into maybe summertime, I think it was closing, like probably August, maybe July, the end of the summer. They had an opportunity to then reach out to Chris again because I saw him, shook his hand, said hi to him, but we never really had any communication from that six month period. So I reached out to him and did like a paid consultation, trying to figure out, like, how do we grow this Boston case thing? Again, we were only six months in the game at that point. In time and everything that I know now, I sure as hell didn’t know back in 2020. So did this call with Chris. And he dropped so much information, so many different nuggets, and I think it was a two way street. We had to kind of go back and forth and play with it because he was saying that he usually doesn’t do these consultation calls. And the only reason why he was open to doing a consultation call with me at that point in time is because I was highly responsive.

He asked for some information, I delivered the information. He asked for particular things. I delivered it very quickly because again, I’m paying to play. And I wanted him to take me on essentially as a client to kind of figure out what he was doing. So every penny that I spent on that was definitely worth it. So again. Kudos to Chris. And then as time unfolded through his emails and through his marketing, come to find out that I think at that point in time they had just been nominated for the Guinness World Record. And I was like, what the hell? Like, what the hell is the Guinness World Record had to do with podcasting? So it kind of blew my mind. I was like, this dude is not only a podcast, but he’s going to the level to where he’s attacking Guinness, getting records. And I was like, holy shit, how do I become a part of that? So that kind of rolled into my strategy. My next step was, okay, what do I do? How do I even get on board his bandwagon? How do I become part of his family? How do I become part of that team to kind of figure out what were they doing and also be a part of it as well?

I wanted to give back to his community. Sure as hell. Within a couple of weeks, I got an email saying that there’s a call for speakers. That was the dawn of Podfest, podfest Global, Podfest Masterclass and VIDFEST, which I spoke at all of them. But again, at that point in time, I wasn’t really speaking on stages. I wasn’t a motivational speaker or influencer or even thinking about course development and all the other stuff that I have right now. So I signed up and sure as hell, shortly thereafter I got accepted. Now when I’m looking back at it, I’m like, okay, did I get accepted because I had everything that was required? Or was it that legacy? Was it me meeting Chris like the October before 2019? Was it me reaching out to Chris during the summertime? These two different elements of time frames? Did that come back to say, okay, I met this guy, I spoke to him, essay is, okay, let’s give him a shot, right? So again, thanks to Chris. So I got on the stage and we did that maybe three or four times and I’m going to be more Podfest coming up to where I’m going to be on that stage as well.

But then fast forward to 2021 and holy shit, I’m starting to believe, like, The Matrix has become a reality to me, to where I’m, okay, I’m a podcaster now. I’m going to grow this monster. And again, going back to the information that Chris had told me back in 2020, and I’m taking these items and I’m heeding to them, I’m sticking to the script and I’m expanding and growing, and then I’m also becoming my own monster as well. And then sure as hell, March 1 of 2021, there was an opportunity for me to not only speak on the stage, but to be part of that new venture to where they were trying to beat their original record for the Guinness. So again, I want to say congrats to Chris because we just found out this week that not only did they beat it again, but this time I was a part of that. So this entire thing that I’m telling you, this entire story about the lessons learned is the opportunities, right? If you are amongst yourself and you’re only in your bubble, only in your world, you’re missing out on larger opportunities because you’re not stretching your vision.

So in your circle of people, like the byproduct of a millionaire is other millionaires, the byproduct of the success is other successes, right? So if you’re in that space that you’re only holding information to yourself and you’re not reaching out to people that are above and beyond or people that are at another level and asking them questions or paying to play with them, then you’re missing out on huge opportunities. So if I didn’t do those things and if Chris didn’t accept me into his world and we didn’t have that synergy, then I wouldn’t be part of his Guinness World Record, right? So again, thanks to Chris, not only did I learn, not only did I grow, not only did I overcome these hurdles, but I also had the opportunity to become part of the Podfest family’s history as well. So again, I just want to say congrats to Chris and his Podfest team because not only did they influence me and Boston Cage probably wouldn’t be where he is right now without them planting those seeds early on and then having an opportunity to be part of their Guinness World Record. So, I mean, again, to me that’s like, everything comes around full circle.

Be a product of your environment, make sure that you’re always stretching your vision and stretching your goals. So moving on to like the next topic, right? And again, this episode is going to be a little bit different. I was going to just talk directly to the nuances of what I’ve learned in the experiences. And I think this is kind of like celebrating our victory because a 100 episode is something that I’ve always deemed to be a landmark episode, like a real landmark episode. You can do ten episodes to a podcast and then walk away from it. You can do 20 episodes and walk away from it, but once you get to the point to where you’re at 100 episodes, it becomes a fuel to the flame. Right? It’s like, now I feel like I’m an actual, real podcaster and it’s not to do with impostor syndrome. I wasn’t podcasted before, but now it’s like you’re going through that right of passage. It’s like, you know, you were a kid and you’re a teenager, but at 100 episodes, you become an adult in an industry to where you could become a mentor, right? You could become a senior in this environment.

So I feel like now, as Boston case has been on, going to a third year, now we’re in that space. So just talking to the mistakes. And the mistakes are things that you don’t want to go back and essentially change, because if they didn’t happen, then you wouldn’t have learnt. Right? So one of the biggest mistakes that I was fearful in the beginning, right? And again, I try to practice, and I do practice what I preach about, being fearless all the time, but in reality, to become fearless, you have to face fear. So when I first developed the podcast, my biggest fear, and it was one of the questions I asked Chris early on, was like, okay, I think at that point in time, we were probably episode 18. We were closing out the season with 28 episodes. And I was kind of, like, freaking out, like, okay, how the hell am I going to keep this going? Now, mind you, I have a rolodex of business owners and entrepreneurs that throughout my business career I have access to. But then you get faced with the reality of people not questioning who you are, but they’re not willing to jump on that bandwagon that early.

Right? You may get faced with, what’s in it for me? I’ll wait until you get to maybe season two. I’ll wait till you’re a little bit more seasoned. I’ll wait. I want to see what you’re doing. So I got faced with that shit early on in the first year, even though I had 28 people, like, the momentum started to roll in. People started to listen to episodes, they started to see the value, and I already had the vision. And then I also had, like, Chris that was giving me insight as well. And I had all these things stacked up to where I knew it was going to succeed over a period of time, but you have to kind of prove yourself. So my fear was, how was I going to get enough people to sign up for me to interview them? And so I was like, okay, you know what? Fuck this fear. I’m going to overcome this fear and I’m going to figure out a strategy on how to build this platform out. So season one, we ended with 28 episodes. Season two, we ended with like, I think it was 69 episodes, 68 episodes, somewhere along those lines.

And that was the transition from me being fearful to me being more productive with what I was doing. The first year. I was thinking too small, where’s my next up episode coming from? Where’s my next episode coming from? In reality, I was thinking wrong. The best way for me to kind of if I was to go back and really think about it was, okay, not where my next episode is coming from. It’s kind of like where’s my next teaching moment going to evolve from. And once I change that vision and I’m going to explain what I mean by that is that I’m not thinking about the next interview. I’m thinking about the next opportunity. The next opportunity for me to tell someone else’s story, the next opportunity for me to give someone an opportunity to tell their story, the next opportunity for me to then expand the diversity of what Boston Cage really is. So between season one and season two, thinking about the scale of things, right? Season one, we were figuring it out. Season two, then we became more international. And that’s all because of the transitional moment, right? It was kind of me facing that fear and overcoming it.

So we created a funnel that’s one of the biggest things that we ever did with the Boston Cage system is that we created an onboarding funnel that allows people to then log in, tell us about themselves, tell them, what social media profiles do you have? What’s your business? What can you give to our listeners? Do you have an image? So just by creating that system, it kind of relieves some of the stress because we were pretty much in season one, working from episode to episode, building out this content. Every single time we got a new interviewer, we had to go and search for their social media profiles, get their headshots, create BIOS. And it became like a huge task. In addition to that, it was okay. We were not really paying attention to downloads in season one. We were not really paying attention to the reach that we potentially could get to. And once we started focusing on those elements versus focusing on who we’re going to interview next, strategizing more. So on the results of the podcast versus the individual episodes of the podcast, that shit magnified overnight, literally, we have to point out to where we can be people from Japan, Australia, UK, Canada, Africa, just to name some of the, like, the different countries around the world, right?

In addition to that, like, this is episode 100. I’m doing a live episode right now, episode 100. But in our Rolodex of episodes that we have not aired, that have been already recorded, we’re essentially going into episode 200, and we’re already organized in season five. So I want you to think about that. Season one, I was paranoid about having enough people when we only released 28 episodes. Season two, we easily doubled that. But in reality, by putting these systems in place and signing up for online stuff like Matchmaker FM, and it’s to the point now to where literally per week, we get somewhere between ten to 24. I guess I’m trying to think about what’s the best way to describe it. We get individuals that are recruiters that contact Boston Cage behind the scenes and say, hey, we have five people that we think will be a great fit for your show. Mind you, season one, paranoid about having enough episodes. Season two, saying, fuck it, knuckling down, creating a system and growing it into a monster. And now in season three, now we get 24 people, somewhere between ten to 24 people per week that are raising their hands, that are willing to be on the show.

So again, this is kind of the proof is in the pudding. You have to kind of put the work in, get over the impostor syndrome, fight those hurdles, and then not only fight those, but put action behind them. And those actions would then turn into results. So now that we’re at like 200 plus episodes and we’re going into season five, even though we’re still in season three, it gives us an opportunity to kind of really sit back and think about things. And I’m giving you this information and insight based upon the way I felt about it. And a lot of times, feelings could kind of become a hindrance. It can kind of slow you down. It can pull you down. So again, if you’re getting this and I’ve gotten these pressures a couple of times here for the podcasts, like newer podcasts, like, how did you get to 100,000 downloads? Right? And I told them some of the steps and strategies of what we’ve done to get there. And some of that may work for them right away, some of them may not. The goal is not to give up. It’s not to quit. It’s to figure out what the problems are and apply solutions and then utilize those solutions to jumpstart into the next phase of whatever you’re going to be.

Because wherever you are right now, six months from then, twelve months, 18 months from then, you’re going to be completely different. Again, we’re on episode 100, and in season one, I was worried about getting to episode 15. I was completely panicking about that shit. And now we’re at the point where we have 200 extra we have extra 100 episodes that we have in here. And I’m not saying this number to impress you. I’m saying this number to say that if you apply yourself and apply strategies and knuckle down and create systems and put them into place, then you will get the results. So again, I was in disbelief, but I just wanted to kind of give you some insight to what we went through and where we are right now. Moving on to favorite episodes. And I’m going to slow down just a little bit to kind of talk about each one of these episodes individually, because I don’t think these episodes are just good episodes. I think that they’re great episodes. And the reason why I’m looking at them as essentially great episodes is because of the insight. The insight with the individual and the insight with the conversation, but more so the insight of Air, like the partnerships that came out of it, the friendships that came out of it.

Because, again, if you’re podcasting outside of monetary value, monetary gains, you’re podcasting essentially as a networker, you’re networking to grow your network wealth. And that network wealth is a product, again, going back to who you surround yourself with. So when I look at and think about the top episodes, and I’m going to start from season one and I’m going to work my way to where we are right now. So season one, I would say season one, episode two, sorry, on Thompson’s episode, not only did we go to school together, not only did we raise our kids together, not only I don’t even look at her as a friend. I look at her as a family member. But that episode was kind of like she was the first person that I reached out in my dossier of people. And out of, let’s say, 100 people, she was the first one to raise a hand and say, yes, right? Versus out of that 100, maybe 40 of them said, no, I’ll wait. Maybe another 20 of them say, I’ll wait and see what you do. Maybe another ten was like, well, you know, what’s in it for me?

But I asked. And then she raised her hand and we jumped on it. And the beautiful part of that is like, that episode is a landmark episode. It was our first real episode that we interviewed someone and we made mistakes in the episode. There were so many different mistakes. We have to record episode twice. The first time, I forgot to turn on the damn recorder. Big ass mistake when it comes to podcasting. But again, I never made that mistake again. So we have to rerecord that episode twice. First of all, second of all, it was before COVID. So think about that episode was essentially recorded January of 2020. Literally. It was like a couple of days after New Year’s, that episode was recorded, and it aired in February. And then 30 days after that, we were full blown and code full blown and shut down. So to see where she was in that particular episode and all the waves and hurdles that she’s overcome and grown and expand in that two year span is a miracle, right? I mean, she’s opened up a coffee shop in that time frame. She’s creating an academy in that time frame.

She’s also got into balloons, got into box subscriptions, all of them successful. All of them in that timeframe as well. And considering she was already successful on day one, that’s why we had her on the show, to see what she’s done in the past two years. It was kind of like an epic thing. So that’s like one of my favorite episodes just for that reason, because it’s a historical episode, the second favorite episode. And again, I’m just doing them sequentially, not based upon, like, priority, would be Greg Caesar. And Greg Caesar, this dude is such a phenomenal individual and intellectual. And every time he speaks, you just can’t help but to sit down and listen. And you get completely inspired by him. Again, if you’re new to digital content, you’re inspired by him. If you’re old to digital content, you’re inspired by him. The dude’s last name says it all. I mean, he’s like the Caesar of fucking digital marketing. And it was cool for me because again, this was my season one. And when I interviewed him, it was episode 17. It was right around that time when I had that conversation with Chris about scaling and growing and getting more high ticketed individuals, people that were a little bit more of a stretch for me, right?

And that was kind of like the dawn. Caesar was essentially the real stretch for me because to me, at that time, he was in the echelon, right? It was kind of hard and difficult to reach out to someone of that magnitude. But again, with Chris’s support and with me overcoming that fear, I said to hell with it. And I reached out to him. And the story goes behind that. It’s like I met him at Tycoon’s event, and it was like, what was it like? August of 2019. And Tycoon is the next episode I’m going to talk about, but through Tycoon at that particular Kindle cash flow event is when I met Greg Caesar. And then I had an opportunity, like less than a year later to then interview him. So again, someone may be out your reach. You may be sitting in the audience right now. You may be listening to this podcast right now. And you may be thinking to yourself, well, this person is out of my reach. This person is out of my touch. I’m never going to be able to communicate with this person on that particular level. And again, I’m showing you that from August until I guess I think it was probably July when I interviewed him.

July, August, within that one year, it was a 90 day difference. We had an opportunity to have a conversation like brother to brother, and he was so informative in that episode. And again, that’s one of the probably most download episodes in Boston cage entirely in this three year span. And it’s going to continue to grow. As I’m telling you, if you haven’t listened to the episode, you need to stop and go and listen to it. It’s. Greg Caesar season One episode 17 Secondary after that would be Tycoon. And it’s funny, but that episode was kind of like there was Greg because Greg lived in Atlanta and Ty lived outstate I think he lives in the Carolinas. So it was a little bit easier for me to get in contact with Greg versus getting in contact with Ty Cohen. And I’m going to take a little strategy behind the scenes. A lot of times when you see someone they’re interviewing, let’s say a kardashians, if you get to the kardashian level, you’re interviewing them nine out of ten times, it’s because you interviewed one of their friends. You interviewed maybe one of their associates. So guilty by association if you could show them the resume of people that you’ve interviewed.

Prime example, I interviewed Greg Caesar and then I reached out to Ty Cohen because again, there was fear in that, right? There were opportunities, but I had to be able to seize these opportunities and I wanted to be able to be not only comfortable, but I wanted to be effective in those interviews. So Greg sees her interview, gave me the audacity and the balls to say, OK, you know what? That episode was a great episode. Greg did his thing and I followed Greg’s lead on the episode. Like, now I want to keep going. I want to keep going down this pipeline of individuals that have networks in the millions. And I wanted to kind of pick their brains and be able to tell their stories and to pick who they are. And that’s when I reached out to Ty Cohen. So Ty got on. He was season two, episode two. And if you don’t know Ty Cohen, just Google his name. I mean, he’s been in magazines, he’s been in articles, and he’s known to be the Kindle king, right? And he’s the creator of kindle cash flow. And if you’re writing books, he has such a solid system to scale and grow.

And part of what I do with Boston Cage is part of his system that I’ve adapted as well. So I definitely want to commend him and thank him for that. But I think that episode would tie it was a really long episode. I think it was like maybe 80 minutes or close to 80 minutes, whatever it was. But it was kind of like a really solid kind of heart to heart episode to where we really dove into who he was and how he became where he is. I mean, at that point in time, I think he was netting somewhere between $3 million a year. And then before he worked at I think it was a CBS or Eckers, and he was like a manager. So, like, how do you go from that to that in that period of time? And he was really, like, telling the details and telling the. Nuances and telling step by step on what he did and how he overcame his imposter syndrome and how he moved forward and overcame his hurdles. And he had medical issues as well, how he pushed through that as well, and hearing doctors saying that you only have this amount of time to live.

So hearing all that information, right, thinking about Tao story, thinking about Greg’s story, and then topping it off with Tycoon story. So that to me, was definitely a foundational episode for me personally, because not only was an achievement for me, but it was also very insightful for Tycoon to not only give our 80 minutes of his time, but to give that much insight and intuition to our listeners at that time, where Boss and Cage was just essentially a year old. Moving on to episode four, I would think my favorite episode would be Damon Burton. And again, ironically enough, it’s season two, episode three episode, right after Ty’s episode. And the reason why I like Damon’s episode, it’s kind of like a personal thing, right? I found Damon I think it was on Facebook. I don’t know if it was Ad or post or whatever it was. Again, me and Damon were completely cold. We really had no overlap. Like Greg and Ty, there was some synergy there. Like, Greg and Ty are really close. They really bonded individuals, all right? And then me and Tow, we were bonded because we went to school together. But Damon was cold.

So Damon was a real stretch for me because again, I had no association. I had no indoor. I had no back door to say, hey, I talk to your boy, or I talked to your girl before. It was me pushing my limitations, which goes back to what I talked about earlier, about being fearful in overcoming those particular hurdles. So when I reached out to Damon was like, hey, dude, I see what you’re doing with SEO. I like what you’re doing. I like your platform. I like your articles. I like your posts. And I went through a lot of these things that he had on Internet. And it was like, this dude, he has his shit together. So I was like, you know what? I want to interview you. So Damon was like, my first cold, cold straight off the street, without knowing what his answer is going to be because I had no dossier of information to bring to him on the table. And he said, yeah. I was like, holy shit. Damon said yes. So then that turned into a conversation that we had on the podcast. And again, you can kind of tell in that episode we were trying to figure each other out because that was the first time we’ve actually had a conversation.

Everything before that was messaging or email. So that was the first time we met was on Earth episode. So by the time the episode ended and you fast forward to now. Well, me and Damon, we talk pretty regularly at this point, at least once a week or every other week on Marco Polo. We’ll send messages back and forth. I had an opportunity to go out to Utah and visit him for his 40th birthday, but that episode was a landmark for me in the sense that, okay, I went from not knowing this person to reaching out to them to then having a conversation with them to them after the episode becoming friends. So again, if you’re in that space to where you’re reaching out to people and you’re scared of them rejecting you, you would get more results from reaching out and pushing past the rejections if you just overcome those hurdles. Because, again, if I didn’t do what I did, damon and I never would have been in the same place at the same time. We never would have a conversation, and we never would have been where we are right now. So that’s the lesson that I really learned from that episode, and it’s a key episode for me personally and why it’s one of my favorites.

Moving on to another one of my favorite episodes, which have been Lenny the Boss, season two, episode seven. So Lenny the boss kind of goes into that same atmosphere with Greg Caesar and Ty Cohen. Lenny the Boss is Tycoon’s cousin, so you kind of see these integrated connections. But Lenny the Boss is just like, I met him maybe once, and I think it was the same time, met Greg in the same time at High in person. And we never really had a conversation. Like, we shook hands and it was kind of like High and by. And then I started following him on Facebook and being that I did the same thing with Damon, and I was like, you know what? Damon said yes, I got nothing to lose. I’m going to reach out to Lenny the Boss, right? Because Lenny the Boss is really big into real estate. He’s really big into, like, buying houses, not necessarily flipping them, but he’s more of a buying hole. Rent them out and you get that liquid cash every single month. So I reached out to him, and it’s the same exact thing happened again. Like, me and Lenny started communicating, started talking.

Lenny’s in a lot of my different groups. I’m in his groups. So we comment and we share information. We even talk offline from time to time. Like, I think one time you talk about going to New York. So we had an opportunity to talk about, dude, if you go to New York, you got to do this, you got to do that. So you become this person that’s not an influencer, but you start to build these relationships. And that’s what really podcasting and really what Boston Cage is really all about. It’s about making the connection with the person that I’m interviewing, whether I’m interviewing them or you are the listener. Listening to them is to make some kind of connection and then to overcome that fear. If you want to contact that person to ask them a question, or if you want to contact me and ask me a question, the goal is you need to jump over that broomstick and make that happen. Because the faster you do it, the faster you’re going to be able to get over those fears and start communicating more and getting more results a lot faster. So Lenny the Boss was another episode similar to Damon to where it built into, like, a relationship.

We definitely communicate. I love what he’s doing as far as in the real estate space and just kind of see, he wakes up. This dude is a ball of energy. Like, if you’re ever down, look up Lenny the Boss, and that dude will wake your ass up quick and fast in a hurry. And he always starts off with, great, great morning, great morning, great morning. His energy levels through the damn roof. And it’s something that just inspires people to kind of be motivated when you’re surrounded by people like that. Going into my next episode, I kind of have a mental list and I have a visual list, and I just kind of want to because again, I’ve had this question so many times, like, what’s your favorite episode? What’s your favorite episode? And that’s why I’m really going into these episodes and I’m telling you guys the stories behind them because if you haven’t listened to episodes, then maybe you’ll go back and listen to them and you kind of see why I’m really excited about these particular episodes. The next one would be season two, episode 59. Donny. So those that know me from Success Champions, that’s like a networking community that’s seeing this video, you already know Donny.

You already know, like, he’ll say F and whatever the hell he wants. Quick, fast, in a hurry. But the story behind that episode was kind of like I don’t remember. I don’t think it was Donny directly. I think it was one of Donny’s people. And that was the first time that I realized the power of podcasting. If you build it correctly over a period of time and you stay consistent, then you’ll have people that will reach out to you to act, to be on your show. So this is why it’s a landmark for me, because Donny was one of the first people that his people reached out to my people, right? Your people talk to my people funny, right? And it was like, hey, like, what you’re doing? We got a guest for you, Donny. We like to have him on your show. And I was like, okay, looked up Donny, because at the time, I didn’t know who he was. And I was like, this dude has a lot of shit going on. We speak the same damn language. So then I ended up having an interview with Donny and Kevin, who’s his right hand man.

And then I interviewed Donnie by himself. This particular episode is just the episode, which is me and Donnie, but it was before where we are right now. Like, Donny and I right now, we have sidebar conversations. We talk about NFCs. We’re always talking about strategy, talking about business. I’m very active in his community. Every once in a while, he’ll show up and say something behind the scenes about something, and then we’ll bounce ideas off of it. So, again, it kind of is a mixture between, like, Ty Cohen being a representative of directions that I want to go in, but at the same time kind of like Damon and Lenny in the sense that, okay, not only is it business and partnership, but it also became a friendship, and it also became more opportunities as well. Like, I spoke at Success Champions last year, which was a great event, and it gave me an opportunity to do a little boogie boogie on stage as well, too. If you haven’t seen that video, just I think it may be on YouTube. I don’t even know where the hell the video is at this point in time. But it gave me opportunity to expand on what I was doing with Podfest and Podfest Global in an environment to where not everyone was essentially cut throat, but it was more of an open environment.

I could be who I wanted to be. I can curse on damn stage, and I could shake and dance if I wanted to, but it was not only accepted, but it was like, holy shit, people are learning from that as well. So there’s so many different nuances with me and Donny on a day to day basis. And that’s why I really love the episode, because where we were on that episode was kind of like, me and Damon, we’re just trying to figure each other out. And then you fast forward six months, nine months. Now we have partnerships and businesses, and now we’re friends, and we have all this different ecosystem to where he could talk shit, I could talk shit, we could sit down, drink a whiskey together, laugh about it, but again, progressively growing together. And that’s what podcasting is really about. And then going into, like, a couple others, like Mr. Burns, Justin Burns. He’s another dude that I met through Greg Caesar that was through a marketing event. And that episode is season two, episode 64. And Justin is cool because he’s a younger cat, like, in the sense of, okay, you’re 30, 40 years old.

I think he maybe like early 30s, late twenties, whatever it was. But he found a system early on to where he went through the trial of two relations. He created a platform called Maestro, which essentially is a platform that allows you to then create courses and promote them online. But even in the episode he was talking about what he was doing, talked about the strategies in place, but he’s always reaching for higher goals. He’s always looking for the same opportunity, but in a larger scale. So I just want to kind of I love the episode because I’ve seen him, he’s always been like this, always been 100% focused on the end results. And he just got one of his goals, right? One of his dreams was to have a Ted Talk. So the reality is that he had his Ted Talk. I think it was last week he got opportunity, and I think he went to Pittsburgh of Pennsylvania or wherever it was, but he accomplished that goal. It kind of goes back to what I was saying about Chris CommentSo about, okay, the Guinness World Record. Like, who the hell does that? And then seeing Justin do a Ted Talk.

Holy shit. Like, again, surrounding yourself with people that are not only giving you opportunities to communicate with them, but they’re giving you opportunities to stretch your vision, to stretch your assets, to stretch your goals. And again, if you stay in these circles and you can see what these people are doing, I mean, like, Damon does so much shit for his community and gives so much back on a day to day basis. He’s just a generally great dude. Lenny Deborah gives so much insight on, like, real estate. Donnie gives so much insight on sale strategy, right? Tycoon gives so much information about how to become a Kindle cash king. And Greg Cesar gives so much insight on just how to create systems through, like, Amazon, for example. And then again, you kind of hear me speaking. You hear me talk about the stuff that I talk about. Again, I’m a byproduct of all these different individuals and all these different podcasts, and I’m ever growing and ever evolving. And the goal for this podcast is to hopefully shed some of that on you. I want you to take some of what you’re learning, some of the inspiration that you may be getting, and then taking action on that.

I’m just trying to think what else I want to cover. Again, because this is a live episode, so it’s opportunity for me to do it. It’s kind of off script. And again, it’s episode 100, and it’s kind of mind blowing for me sitting here thinking about it right now. It’s like, we made it to episode 100, and like, we have so much more episode, so much more to do. This is not the end of the end. This is like the real beginning for me. And I always make that statement to say, you’re not a real podcaster until you hit 100 episodes. So now, like, I’m holy shit, I’m a real podcast. Like, this is my shit. This is what I’m going to do. This is what I enjoy doing. So part of that is just kind of like going back to the fear thing. And the last episode, I want to talk to you is Jacqueline Wales, which is season two, episode 56, essentially our 84 episode. And I remember the episode very vividly because Jacqueline is I don’t know how old she is, but she’s an older lady. And her entire thing and the entire thing that she sells and promotes is about being fearless.

It’s about overcoming hurdles. And that episode resonated with me so much because she was saying that she grew up in Europe. She had kids in Europe, and her kids were like under the age of ten, and she used to put them on the bus and the transit system overseas by themselves and pretty much tell them information and tell them to figure it out. She made her kids so selfsufficient and to the point to where she’s older now in the US. And she’s teaching that same element of being selfsufficient, overcoming the fears. And that’s her brand. It’s like, how do you become fearless and factor that into whatever you’re doing? There’s always going to be fear, but how do you overcome that fear and progress and move forward? And everyone that I talked about, all about the episode, every single one of them, whether they stated it on the episode, not all of them had overcome some kind of fear or some kind of challenge. So closing out, talking about Jackman, it just makes sense. Like, dude, the only thing that’s going to hold any individual back is the fear of failure, which is something that I had to face as well, too.

But once you pass that and then you start to sail, you start to see opportunities and you start to see them, you start to conquer and you start to kick in damn doors, then you’re never going to look backwards and the fear becomes more so fuel for your flame. So going into like closed, right? I always like to set these goals. Like, any time I have an episode like this and I’m talking to you, the listener, I want to set goals. I mean, before we talked about our 100 download gold and went to 20 and we got to the point where we got 1000 downloads. So now is at the point, like, if you’re getting value from Boss and Cage, I would ask you to go and leave a review on Apple podcast, right? And again, I’m setting the bar right now. Our current reviews are at 405 star reviews, right? And again, I don’t really compare my reviews or compare what we’re doing with Boston, Cage with any other platform. So I don’t know if four or five is high. I don’t know if four or five is low. And at this point, I really don’t care about that number.

What I do care about is reaching the next goal, which is 1000 reviews, five star reviews. And again, that’s going to help us not only encourage us to create more content and to help influence other business owners and entrepreneurs, but it will help other people find Boss and Cage as well, too. So if you’re getting value from what we’re delivering, if you’re getting value week to week on information and the people that we’re interviewing, and again, I’m going to continue to keep stretching my vision and stretching out my goal and reaching more and more people to get them on the show to tell their stories. If that’s helpful to you, then by all means, if you don’t mind, please go and give us a review on Apple podcast. The goal is we want to get to 1000 reviews this year, and again, we’re close to halfway there, and again, why not, right? So we’re conquering fear and we’re overcoming these particular hurdles. So 1000 seems to be pretty obtainable and I feel like I’ve been talking probably a mile a minute. And it’s funny because I just had coffee with some of my networking group people and they were saying that I’ll talk really fast and I said I was going to slow down and obviously I didn’t slow down because I’m amped up and I’m excited.

Again, I’m high on caffeine as well, too, because I kind of adds to it as well. So again, before I close out, let’s get a shot of whiskey, one of my favorite whiskies. Yes, Japanese whiskey. And the little thing on the top is a little device. When you get to the point where you have teenagers in your house, you have to start locking your liquor just in case. That’s what this is. I’m going to go ahead and crack this sucker open, get my Japanese whiskey popping, and I want to close out with a particular quote and a quote from a dude that if I could get his ass on this podcast, it would be damn again, kind of conquer fear and push forward. So the quote is, I’m not afraid of dying, I’m afraid of not trying. And it’s by Jay Z and I want that to really sink in. I mean, I’m not afraid of dying, but I’m afraid of not trying. And that’s the goal of this entire thing that we’re talking about, is conquer your fears, push through, achieve the goals, push your limits, push your vision, surround yourself with like minded or people that can at least stretch what you think is great. And that way you can see what greatness is really about.

S.A Grant, over and out.

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