Manifestation Coach Of JD Studios: Jennifer Dodge AKA The Talent Boss – S3E03 (#99)

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Welcome back to Boss Uncaged podcast. On today’s show, we have a special guest. I’ve deemed her the talent boss. And as she begins to speak and tell you her story, you will know exactly why I’ve called her the Talent Boss. So Jennifer was the person that I kind of met through hot fest through Andrew. So it was kind of like a secondary situation to where Andrew was like, hey, I think you should meet her. And we connected a couple of weeks ago. We had a great conversation. I was like, I got to have you on the show. And I kind of just started telling her about the show and the reasons why. She is obviously the definition of a boss. So without further ado, Jennifer, the floor is yours. Tell her just a little bit more about yourself.

Hi everybody. My name is Jennifer Dodge JD. Thank you for listening and being here. And I have a background definitely in performing arts and really in just the dream, building the dream, expressing the dream, being the dream and bringing others along with you. And I’ll say the same word, a dreamer and somebody who always believed anything was possible and that there is no limit in your pathways to growth and to create what you desire for your life. And so I had a dream of being able to perform originally as a character actress in top companies such as Disney, playing characters that are really iconic and legendary and impactful with their messaging and their personalities and what they meant to me. And so I have definitely built my career as an actress and a model with live interactive performances on stage through meet and greets and films and commercials and things like this. And then I have now built my own production company and pathway to be able to merge my desire to really address mental health and just sole satisfaction. Soul. Happiness. Joy. And really as cliche as it sounds. World Peace Initiative through performing arts and really being able to create impossible unlimited goals with the right collaborations where we’re bridging the gaps of mental health and utilizing performing arts to do that is really why I’m here and what I’ve built and what I’m working towards.

Nice. I think part of one of the things that you said and just anybody has the opportunity to kind of go to her YouTube channel with a particular video that was on that channel and you were just talking about a girl’s dream of becoming a princess, right? So in that journey of becoming a princess. You actually fulfilled that. So let’s just talk. Obviously you mentioned Disney a little bit. You talked about some of your acting. Let’s dive into that philosophy a little bit about becoming a princess.

Yeah, I could definitely speak about princess empowerment, and there’s different layers of discussion of my beliefs about that. But to answer your question, my journey was originally identifying as a pixie or like a petite woman. And I had a dream of playing Tinkerbell in many capacities and with some of my own journeys with confidence and maybe not feeling worthy of being a Disney princess, and also just worthiness with my height, size and things like this, I was able to transform my own self worth by holding the face of being cast as a Disney actress. And so that journey, I really just trusted my intuition, and I kind of told everybody consistently that I was the part, I was getting the part. It was me in my own identity. And so everybody started to call me Tinkerbell, or they would really believe what I would say to a point where it was already done in everybody’s mind, including mine. And so my journey was auditioning at Disney. I auditioned in San Francisco, California, and I didn’t hear my name when they or my number, if you will, when they called me to proceed in the audition. So I actually left the venue. This has happened to me twice, where I’ve left the venue and thinking I didn’t get the part. And then I work intuitively, so I hear a voice in my brain or my soul, whatever you want to call it, and it just whispered to turn around and go back, ask. And so I did listen to my intuition, and so I was able to turn instead of being afraid of the fear of what if it didn’t work, the fear of shame and you’re not going your way, but instead being so courageous and so confident that no matter what people think of you, you continually fight for your dream. And so I did go back anyway. I went back and I asked, and it turned out I was still in the audition. And so I did jump right back in and I made it all the way through. And then from there, I was able to achieve multiple offers in different character roles and then just grow from there in different variations of specialties with my scuba certification and being really good friends with Mickey Mouse and able to swim with sharks and in character and just lots of different examples of characters.

Nice. So if you had to define yourself right, like, what three to five words would you use? Choose.

Visionary. Curious. Funny. Passionate. And creative. And abstract. Abstract, creative. Can we mix them?

It’s definitely cool. I mean, it’s definitely a sensit to who you are. And I think another part of who you are is you’re always on the journey to not only find self confidence in yourself, but to help other people on that self confidence journey. You got to just talk about that a little bit, and I think you alluded to it a little bit about your height earlier on. So let’s just talk about some of the things that you were faced with on that journey to becoming these Disney characters, to becoming who you are today and how did you overcome those hurdles.

Yeah, so, I mean, it’s an interesting story, and I could go deeper just in maybe future questions about it, but I always identified as really confident, even as a baby or a toddler, I think I was very just confident in myself and certain, if you will. But I definitely experienced bullying, and I don’t even feel like I feel bullied as a child because I was so confident that it didn’t even phase me. But that’s not true either, because things are deep in your subconscious programming. So essentially, my first experience of bullying was just really being a woman or a person who was really short. So I always see, excuse me, I obviously stood out, and everywhere I go, I’m the shortest one in the room. And this is an inappropriate joke, so I apologize if it’s inappropriate to anybody in the audience, but I just think it’s really clear about my size. So anyway, the point is, there was a wonderful girl who was in a wheelchair, and during our photo shoot as a class, I remember us lining up height by height by height, and I was even still shorter than the kid in the chair in the wheelchair. So I remember that really standing out to me of like, yeah, not so much shame, but just a trigger in your confidence and being that person that always stood out, that always was stared out. No matter where I’d go, I’d be stared at. I’d have people laugh at me, pick me up, types of things like this just to make you feel kind of unworthy or even just walking by and having, like, a whole group of people talk about you in front of you and laugh at you. Never feels good. So that was just kind of my original wound of being stared at a lot and always kind of being watched or stood out. But it definitely shaped my strength and my ability to have that unshakable confidence no matter what, which really did lead into how I can own the stage, become number one on a roster, which that means just being a top actress that gets the role, gets the gig. And I’m proud of that because it’s really about being the essence and radiating just no matter what. So, yeah, I mean, I started just with those types of bullying encounters and feeling like I wasn’t worthy for who I was uniquely. And I’ve been able to instead transform that belief in myself to be, like, so proud of who I am and how I am. And that being my key game changer in the industry, too.

So taking all that right, obviously you’re full of life, you’re full of energy and you’re full of confidence and motivation. And you took all these different things and you kind of created a brand for yourself and you created a business around it. So let’s talk about your business. What business do you have based upon those principles? And what type of clients are you usually looking forward to work with?

Yeah, so I’m a little bit of a jack of all trades, if you will. And so I could say the original answer would be my clients are everyone, which is a little bit, maybe roll your eyes about that. But deeper down. I’ve built multiple pillars in my gifts and how my gifts work together to serve clients. So my ideal client is somebody who is hungry, ambitious, passionate. That is a talent. So talent can mean you want to transform your art, your passion into profit. And so then the pillars are, I operate as a coach. And so coaching can mean a lot of things, whether that’s coaching your mindset and your identity to believe something, different mindset, coaching to be able to create a result, maybe that you’re walking subconsciously because you don’t believe you’re worthy of it or whatever the reason in your subconscious. So that’s a psychology background or a counseling psychology type of category in coaching specifically. But coaching has its own tree of like roots where you can coach talent then. So coaching dance, coaching theater, coaching public speaking, coaching just confidence, coaching songwriting. And I could go on and on about coaching and being able to mirror back to a client what they’re projecting or reflecting, or being able to see their art and take it another angle, which is what’s beautiful about artists collaborating, creating something that you would never create on your own because of that different art form mixed with yours. So that would be, one company is coaching, a gen pink coaching, and then the other pillar is JD Studios Productions, LLC, which is specifically producing commercial, like 32nd trailers to really portray someone’s gifts, or to be able to move an audience to buy, to become a fan, et cetera. And then that company goes on and on with commercial work, writing scripts for companies, producing music videos and photo shoots and lots of things like this. And then I guess the other pillar, I could go on, but I’ll just keep it to three right now would be just my talent. So I can sell my talent as an actress, model, singer, songwriter. There’s just many angles of the company. And so those are the three pillars as of the main ones of how to merge coaching, production and talent.

Now I guess everyone clearly understands why I’ve called you the talent boss, right?

I like it.

So you alluded to one of your businesses, being an LLC. Right? So this is one of the questions. Obviously, you have multiple different pillars. How are your business structured? I mean, do you have multiple LLCs? Do you have Scorp, C Corp? Do you have an umbrella? How is it set up?

Mostly LLC. And that’s the one. The Heartbeat is JD Studios Productions, LLC. And then I do partnerships with other companies through that LLC. I’m trying to think I have a nonprofit entity, so that would be 501 C three, which gets a little deeper into the mental health parts of things or allows me to volunteer my work out to nonprofits. So my production company is an LLC, but then I might be able to commit a certain percent of investment or time towards nonprofit work, performing, doing production for them. So I’ve merged my nonprofit with my LLC, and I think my coaching company might be C Corp, but I usually work with the LLC as of Current has been my main reporting.

So, I mean, just talking about entertainment wise, that’s a juggling act in itself, right? I mean, you have all these different business structures, and they’re moving around. Anything can go wrong in either one of those businesses. So what systems do you have in place to kind of maintain the composure across all these brands?

My system is simple, so that’s kind of my answer. I worked with a coach as well to help me build the system. Actually, the story about that well, I don’t know the words of this. I never mind. But there was a time when I was also just really struggling with mental health, which was directly related to my ability to profit or receive, to feel safe, to receive and grow and to be seen, essentially. So I remember just really knowing I was hitting a wall with my business, and I needed to hire this coach to help me build the structures in the system so that there was no excuse for why I wasn’t growing, essentially back then when I felt like I was just blocking my transformation. And so I remember it was a catch 22 where I had manifested an iPad. It was really special to me, this iPad, because it was like unlocking this level a material thing, but unlocking this level of, I can translate my art, I can illustrate the dream, people can understand me, and it meant something for that. And then I remember selling the iPad for a terrible price just because I needed the money. And I used that iPad to pay for my first investment in this business coach to help me get the systems in place. And that did change a lot of things, and it unlocked my first ability to do five figure sales and grow from there. So the system was just taking those risks and trusting myself. But also that’s just what I did to get there. But the system was simple, just really what’s the one pillar which was really, how can I create service so powerful that I create long term viral clients, or long term, I say viral as in a trickle effect. I believe you plant a seed and it grows, grows. So creating one sustainable impact and loyalty creates, such as having a loyal clients such as Disney or Universal Studios or other clients, and then being able to coach intuitively those clients, clients so powerfully that it’s unmeasurable knowing where the source came from and also just really being able to create. Yeah, the system is simplicity and client impact because when you see, for example, a seven year old child transforming their sexual assault on stage in front of thousands of celebrities, and then the celebrities invest, like, whatever the number is, $150,000 in a nonprofit that day to keep the arts alive. That is the strategy, that is the business model. It’s impacting souls that you can’t erase, that. You don’t negotiate with Jennifer Dodge talent boss because you see in the heart of the eyes, in their heart and their performance, how powerful it was. And you will sign up, you will pay, you will join, because it’s about the impact. So that’s really my message and just keeping things really simple, really clear pathways where it’s almost like magic. You don’t need anything. As in it speaks for itself, it sells for itself. And that’s my magic about that.

Yeah, I think that’s pretty cool in a sense that if anybody was listening to that, I think they need to rewind back about five minutes. And like you said, you don’t negotiate with the talent boss. Right. So you know your value, you have confidence in your value, and you’re presenting what you think is a perceived value deal to whoever you’re presenting it to. And I think that’s a segment that a lot of people misinterpret, right? Some people may say, okay, hey, I need this, and how much is it? And then you tell them it’s 10,000. And then they look at you like, well, 10,000, could you do it for 8500? Could you do it for 7500? And it becomes a negotiation thing. And in some parts of the world, negotiation is everything. But to your point, the credibility in what you do shouldn’t be negotiated because you’re going to get them the results that they want. And do you stand by that? What I just said. Is that a true statement to you?

Yeah, definitely. I said searching earlier. I’ll keep with that. It’s this faith, it’s this strong certainty as an artist of being able to deliver a vision and being able to trust that iconic essence of just all the way through, follow through, just in the sense of your commitment to a project or to a character. So the show must go on. And really, if you came to a performance and you knew Jennifer Dodge was going to be on the stage, you’ll know, she’ll show, you know, she’ll be legendary and you’ll know, the audience will scream her name. And the only reason why that happens is because I’m open, heart, vulnerable, completely surrendered the audience and to the character and to the writers who wrote the script. Everybody involved. So that’s where sales does come in because it’s the same type of thing whether I’m negotiating for an investor in a nonprofit mission. You don’t walk away. You’re moved, you’re changed. And that’s really my statement in the art forms or in the creativity of what I do and why, it’s a statement. It’s like abstract art. When you paint a picture and you splatter the paint, it’s done, it’s there. It’s very clear that that’s the way it’s going. And so that’s what I would say. I’ve definitely had a journey with a lot of things, but I’m very certain and confident in the value I deliver and why and the impact beneath it and how all the systems and structures do work together. A happy ensemble. You trust me to pair the right team together. So you get that synergy in a group, the right performing artists. Cause I know politics too, so I know who’s going to clash, why, what communication needs to happen. One coach might go on a set and you don’t get any talent, you don’t get the shot you’re looking for because they didn’t know how to coach. But Jennifer Dodge knows how to unlock the talent, the client, and coach them to a level where they are shining, they are radiant because I’ve unlocked something in their soul to get the performance. But a performance can be an expression of self too. So that’s what I do. I unlock you. And from there it’s magnetizing. So you can’t negotiate magnetizing energy. It’s law of traction. It pulls you. So that’s my statement about that.

Wow, that’s definitely powerful stuff. So in that I think you’re alluded to, without defining it as being a triple press, right? I mean, you have all different three aspects in your particular business of being like a talent agent to a certain extent. So in that the next question would be, is someone seeing you for the first time? And they may say, okay, she’s a Disney princess or she’s a hell of a coach, or her production agency has done a great job and you may be the perception of overnight success, but in reality, how long have you been on your journey to get to where you are currently?

I would truly say it’s been 29 years of consistent persistence. And I say that I am 29. So that’s a little bit of a joke, but it’s not because I believe I was very just aware as an infant, just super developed or wise. My mother said I came out like an adult and she said I would scream and I would have these not panic attacks, but I would have these kind of like just excitement, seizures. I don’t know how to say it, like, in the crib, I would be like, I’m so excited about something. She’s like, you were just lit up about something. Nobody knew what you were screaming about, but you were just excited. And so that was like my first thing, was that. And then as a two year old, I was creating abstract art at church. I guess my dad has a memory of me in funeral at church, just wildly creating scribbles and just being so certain about my art and him being really moved by my art as a two year olds. And then I was directing films. My dad was my first cinematographer, so I was using stuffed animals in my sets. My poor little sister was always in my movies, my cousins, every camping trip or family holiday, it was Jennifer’s production, and everybody sit down, and she’s performing and directing. So I was always creating stories with Barbies, and it was very iconic. My family would listen to me outside my bedroom door, and I’d be screaming and acting and voice acting and creating stories and characters. And I think it was infancy, but really less of my cat at two years old. And I believe that I was writing my vision for now that I’m still building, which was the whole entire empire and the entire storytelling realm that I’m writing. I’m a writer, too, so it’s a work in progress, and I’m still working on it, but I do believe it’s about 29 years of overnight success, and there’s different layers of how long did it take you to get at Disney? I mean, that was a lot of work on my confidence to be able to demand and walk, you know, have the confidence to get through the audition and to come back even when I thought I didn’t get it. But, yeah, I definitely think it’s 29 years.

You’re a living example of your journey and your destination chose you. You didn’t choose it. You were essentially born to be who you are currently, whether you knew it as a child or not. And everything that you talked about as being a toddler and an infant is essentially what funded and grew you into who you are today, which is definitely crazy, right? So thinking about that, if time travel was possible and you can go back in time, at any time in the last 29 years, what’s one thing that you would want to change if you could do it all over again?

Oh, my goodness. Well, I would stay connected to my heart is the answer. And so there’s been moments, I mean, I could go back to childhood and talked to seven year old who was writing hundreds of songs. I had this binder. I remember times where I get frustrated and I would just be like, what’s the point? And I’d burn them all or I’d rip them out of the notebook. Very dramatic. But, yeah, those moments are really emotional of maybe feeling suppressed like I remember as a child wanting to take voice lessons or wanting to be in La. But feeling super sheltered and not really trusting the journey or not feeling like it was meant for me. Like knowing deep down, yeah, I was born for this. There’s no question. This is my inner truth. There’s no other thing but this path. But then feeling like I was met with whatever the thing was that slowed it down or stopped the growth or the desire to perform and be in this journey. But, yeah, just really having that faith and trusting myself and no matter what other people might have said to me about their beliefs projected onto me, me just really staying connected to my heart. And so I guess it’s about open your heart, be vulnerable and patient. And that’s a hard one. The patience and staying open when you’ve been hurt a lot is also really hard to keep that open heart. But that’s what it takes to be radiant and to connect. And so if you’re closed off, you won’t connect. And there’s really no point. It’s kind of like the moment of ripping out your songs. There’s no point. What’s the point? But being open. And that’s what life is about. So that’s what I would tell her, that’s what I would tell myself. And that’s really simple. But I could go into more details of like, I’d redo this thing this way, but I just have to really learn with grace and self love. And that is just the open heart thing and the patience.

Got it. I think you also talked about your family life a little bit here and there in this conversation and you kind of mentioned your parents and then you mentioned your dad. So, I mean, obviously you’re a big entrepreneur and usually it’s either one side of the corner. Either you’re influenced by your environment based upon, like, your parents or your grandparents, uncles and aunts being entrepreneurs, or you were just born that way. In your case, which one was it? Do you have any entrepreneurs in your family or did you just came out running to be an entrepreneur?

I grew up with farmers. Their entrepreneurship was farming, but it wasn’t so much like a business. It was more like supporting your family and just like the family heritage. So I would say I am like the first entrepreneur. My family is very successful. My brother is a doctor. My dad’s a computer program or genius, math genius and, you know, talented too, and really animated. You’ll see where I get it. And my sister is a nurse and really just genius socially. My siblings and my family definitely had a huge influence just on my creativity and my ability to thrive and lots of encouragement of go, Jen, you know, lots of that. So that really was beautiful, the support from that. But I was the first entrepreneur who took it that way. I was trained just to do the typical get a degree and then get the job and then set yourself up for retirement and white picket fence. And that was kind of how I was believing. So I always felt a little bit different, but I know my path is different. And then my first entrepreneurship experience was on the farm. So it was breeding miniature donkeys. And then my first sale was like an $800 donkey or like selling grasshoppers to neighbors, stuff like this. But yeah, that was how it started.

Wait a minute, let’s back that up. So a Disney princess was getting paid for breeding miniature docs. I want you to think about that in Copywriting, right? What kind of headline would that be? Right? So obviously you’re a big family person, right? So, I mean, in today’s world, because you’re such a huge entrepreneur, you have all these different pillars. How do you currently juggle like, your work life with your family life?

It’s a struggle, I’ll be honest, because I always am. I do feel this grief in my soul of just wanting to be more to hustle, like regionally the West Coast and the East Coast. And I travel and I’m very booked, we’ll put it that way. But it’s really in my heart always to always come back to my roots, to be involved with my family and to show them that I care no matter where I go. Because I was in Florida and that was separating from my family too. So my answer is I did give them like a year during the pandemic or your half of just like I moved home, I just spent time with my family just specifically, so I did give them a lot of time. And then we have a Facebook group message. So we do message kind of daily just in the family group. So I try to keep them up to date that way. And then just phone calls or trying to plan vacations where every year or whatever it is, whatever the occasion, birthdays or Mother’s Day or celebrating my parents 35 year anniversary, I’ll make sure that those weekends I prioritize visiting and just being a part of whatever is on the table. So that’s the best way, letters, stuff like that. But I still wish I could do more. And I believe that’s a mindset thing too, of how to balance everything nice.

So it seems like obviously with your crazy schedule, with your multiple different pillars and always juggling and understanding that you need to kind of maintain composure in all your different facets. You have to have like a serious morning routine. What does your morning habits, your morning routine look like?

I really like just the moment of waking up early so that I can stay in bed and trick my brain to think it’s left in. So that’s one little thing I do, either maybe make fun of that or it could be like perceived differently. But I. Love to cuddle my cats. So I definitely spend time really taking my time waking up, being like, I relied a candle, I spray my little rose petal water. I sprinkle natural lavender in my bed. So I definitely work with elements and scents to honor flame, to honor water, if you will. Plant colors of plants, smells and things in my animals, their texture, the soft fur, and just truly creating a positive dialogue in my brain so that I’m waking up with the right energy. And then I do work with heat. So hot water, having my tea, feeling my tea, being grateful for whatever it is, matcha tea, coffee and I are best friends. So I do a graduate work with simply my tea and hot water or like the feeling of the warmth and then just trying to be grounded with those elements. And then I definitely do gratitude work often, whether that’s when I’m washing my dishes or journaling with it. And I have a sauna as well. So I do a lot of stretching and kind of get into the dancer vibes, like ballerina vibes. And that really gets me into a state of a different flow state, feeling open hearted or being able to feel that creative energy start to turn. Because I take the time to honor just the little things like the tea, the flip, the candle, the cat and the bath routine as well. So it’s really just the ritual of getting ready and putting intentions into either choosing my outfit or what did I choose the night before. Because I like to make a statement with my decisions, whether it’s the hair color, the lipstick color, the jewelry I’m choosing. Everything has an intention or artistic message behind it, whatever the vibe might be that day. Yeah, so those are my little kind of simple hacks. And I have a lot of deeper level journaling I do or routines, but those are the main really simple ones. I love when I’m in a tropical area such as Southern California or Hawaii. I’ll definitely write songs with birds. That one is a good day, like waking up to birds and my little morning ritual is really amazing and watching the sunrise and stuff. But that’s really when I’m in a certain I can do it anywhere, but I just typically will do that routine. When I’m in a sunnier place or a beach kind of location, then I’ll get up earlier and that’s the dream is those moments.

Nice. Definitely. I think everything that you said on this episode so far is 100% driven by having not only a positive, but action taking mindset. Right. So I think this is one of those things that some people may have the ingenuity to have that inside of them, but then you’re influenced by particular things on that path. So in this next question, what books did you read to get to where you are? It’s a three part question, right? What books have you read to kind of influence that mindset that you have on your journey? What books are you currently reading to kind of maintain and grow? And are you an author? Have you written any books?

Yeah. So I’ll say kind of three. One book. Okay. Actually I have four books, but two of these books I read over and over again. So you could ask me what I’m reading, and it’s usually like, I’m reading this book again. Two of them. So my favorite book is A Wrinkle in Time by Madeline Engel. Engel. And that one I started in childhood, and I’ve read it over and over, and I just love it. And there’s something in it. I think it has spiritual messages somewhere in there. It’s just the element of adventure, the element of transformation, of being able to bend time, if you will. And it’s a little bit fantasy scifi. So I read that one over and over just to spark my own writer in me and my own self. I don’t know how else to say that. It’s just something that really moved me. I love that book. And then I also read Wicked the Tale of Alphabet and The Story of the Wicked Witch of the west, which is also maybe a cliche, but I truly love the musical and I love the book, and I love wizard of Oz. And so I read a lot of Frank Bomb or just wizard of Oz literature, just performing arts literature. But I do the history on it. I go deep on whether it’s researching the actual family members and, like, meeting them and then going deeper, deeper to hear their own life stories and then keep reading the literature. I do that type of work that really inspires me. Those are two that I work with now, and I consistently reread something I’ve done. I don’t know why I do it. And then the two other ones that really were game changers, I’m getting chills, nervous. But the game changers for Mindset work were two books who Switched Off My Brain by Caroline Leaf really helped me to understand mental health pathways and to not make yourself wrong for if you have depression or anxiety or PTSD, which I do. And so that one really helped me to have my spiritual beliefs, but not let that get in the way with psychological or mindset or even New Age manifestation law of attraction work. So I blended all of these types of theories. Including my degree has lots of books I’ve read just for school. But Who Switched Off My Brain was huge and really being. Like. Accepting of it’s okay to have mental health battles or struggles or that journey and having the exact direct solutions of what to do to leverage it as the words I’ll say. Not fix it. But leverage and gain that relationship that’s positive and productive. And then the other book that really made a difference with my ability to manifest like this like serious magician alchemist here. Probably a scary level. I’m so confident in my ability to manifest anything. And so this book is called Write It Down, make It Happen by Henrietta Clausar. And so that’s really just the power of writing it down on the paper. It’s intentions, it’s writing, it on the calendar, it’s script writing. So my first program I sold as a coach was called Compose Your Life, which is also a book, and it’s a musical, actually. So I’m in work with publishing my work to the level of having published books out there. So right now I don’t it’s more like songs I have out or performances I’ve done, but I’m writing a lot of things and they’re kind of just sitting because I have different deals with different publishers. And so I’m just taking my time, finding the right moment to feel like, okay, it’s time to pull the trigger. But this Write it Down, Make It Happen really unlocked the ability to see how powerful your words are, your intentions, and to know that you matter and that you do create that ripple effect in your life when you take action and when you make a decision really is what it’s about, a core decision, then you can do anything. And I think you’re unstoppable, basically. So those are the books. And then I did say Compose Your Life is like it’s a tour, it’s a concert, it’s a book, it’s a way of thinking. It’s a core message. And it’s like an entire script that has characters. And it’s the way I’m portraying my books, like mixed media, if you will. So that’s one of them that I’m working on. And being the composer of your own life. So lots of empowerment in that work. And I have some other books coming. One of them is pretty dark. It’s called the murder of Jennifer Dodge. And it’s very raw about just mental health and really going there with kind of like has a wicked vibe or the alphabet, like the twisted stories of how our prejudice or how certain scenarios play out and how it affects soul. So I go deep in suicide type of topics and I’m trying to portray something and make it very shocking and very raw because I want to create that wow factor, that shock factor, to really create a different way of thinking in society, essentially. And I could go on about that mission and who I’m partnered with on it. PostSecret.com is my affiliate endorsement. Frank Warren endorses my book or my speeches, my art, my music, whatever it is. So The Murder of Jennifer Dodge is going to be a film score, a book, same type of thing, and really reaching somebody who’s ready to end their life and to just speak to their darkness, I guess.

I think with your bookshelf, I think all of them kind of shows you a personality, right? Some people may hear all your books, they’re all over the place, but they’re all in that bubble of Jennifer. Right. And I was hoping that when I asked that question originally, I was like, okay, maybe she’s going to say Alice in Wonderland. And then you said The Wrinkles of Time, which is kind of like a parallel into the Looking Glass version of Alice in Wonderland. So it makes perfect sense, like, why you went down that route. And in your book that you’re talking about, like, The Murder of Jen. Right. It’s looking into the looking glass. It’s not necessarily a reality, but it’s taking segments of your life and regurgitate in a fashion to invoke motivation and to inspire other people. So just to kind of talk about those books, I just want people to understand what she just said is who she is. But it gives a persona based upon her journey, and she’s taking these books and transforming them into reality, which is definitely a cool visionary, I would say. You’re a visionary as well, right? Yeah. So let’s just talk about, like, what do you see yourself in 20 years from now?

Where do I see myself?

Yeah. Where do you see yourself 20 years from now?

Yeah. That’s a good vision. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so it’ll be a wonderful day. I will be on a yacht, on a sailboat in Jamaica with my red locks at 50 or with a new tattoo on my ass. Or on my butt. I’m just kidding. Ridiculous. I’m kidding, but not really. And hopefully I ideally have a family, married partner, just some more love moved in my life with. That would be the goal. My own family is a goal. And overcoming that fear of childbirth, that’s just one of them. But ideally, yeah, I’ve really finished the job, which is I’m building a franchise and investing in franchises. So being a franchise owner will be one of those things and really bringing all of my visionary dreams to life. Ideally, in 20 years, I’m retired. I’ll never retire, but I’m retired, as in, everything I’ve said I’m going to do is now done. And it’s out. It’s published. It has every level of creative expression that I wanted to portray it, and it’s grown worldwide. I’d like to have a lot of things tangible in person, whether that’s, like, certain characters I’ve written now, kind of like Universal Studios Harry Potter world. I definitely dream of having my own empire, entertainment empire, where you can literally go to the castle, you meet the fairy queen, you dress up like the fairy queen. I’m just making it up. Or the elf or the treme or the things. And you get that interactive experience on another level of customer service that Disney never took it and that Universal Studios never took it. And so that’s what I’m looking for, is just the full empire born and then the dream. The billboards, the tour, the viral album, the Billion Dollar launch on a film. I have a lot of dreams to do, a lot of things. And so hopefully in 20 years, my simplest strategies have been planted really strongly and things have been built really strongly and yeah, the pillars have just been invested in really well with whatever that means for the business on the back end. And I’m feeling that freedom to just travel and enjoy witnessing the fruit and witnessing the joy of people’s projects coming to life themselves or interacting with ours that we created too.

Yes. Kind of going back to what you said earlier on, are you sailing right now? Are you to sailing?

No, I mean, I am not a sailor. I would happily hop on the sailboat and learn tomorrow and not by myself. Need help? I would be nervous. But no, I mean, I’m a rafter. I’m more of like a river canoe or canoe. But I would love to sell and I am scuba certified, so I love to explore and I’m all about it, adventurous, wise.

Nice. I think we share that commonality. I’m scuba certified as well and I took up sailing last May, so bought a boat and everything. I’ve been sailing for about a year now.

Wow, it’s such a I would love to pair sale, also surf. But those types of skills are so challenging. Like, it’s so impressive that you do that.

Believe it or not, I think your brain could definitely separate the details of it. It’s literally linear. It’s kind of like you pull up the sale and the wind is coming from that way. You put the sale on the side, the wind is coming from that way, you put the sale on that side. It’s literally as simple as that. And then obviously there’s other technical things that go into it, but it’s just simply following the wind. That’s really all it is, capturing the wind wherever it comes from. So I think definitely I think you would be great at it if you decide to go down that path. Right, so let’s talk about thinking like you talk about all these different systems, all these different pillars. There’s got to be some software behind the scenes that kind of help you manage this, manage all these things. Like, what applications would you recommend that you would not be able to do what you do without?

Well, I mean, I’m a fan of Squarespace just for the website stuff that I’m happy with. And that was kind of really the epitome of when I made my it’s cliche, but when I made my website, that was just so like me claiming this is what I’m doing and I get to decide if I say this, this is done, and putting on the website, that means it’s done. So that was huge. I know it’s simple, but my favorite systems are right now, like Logic Pro, I just production stuff, being able to produce voiceover or backing tracks or vocals commercials. Yeah, it’s like Adobe and Logic Pro are kind of my main squeeze. And then, I mean, just little calendar, like just the cliches that I’ve used in the coaching industry have really been something that I’ve just worked for me. So I just kept working with it, and I did want to keep a simple feeling. It made me feel safe, like, I can trust this. So, yeah, I mean, mine are just the square space calendly. Adobe, I mean, I can do all of the software, such as if you’re making a movie, but usually I outsource to experts and people I trust that can translate and deliver quality and we’ll follow through on a project. So I have a team that works with all my go to, whether that’s ableton live to produce loops for my vocals or just there are different pro tools and things like this, but for me, myself and I, logic Pro X is gold. It’s just what I love to work with specifically.

Nice. So you’re both in an Adobe and an Apple branded house. Got you. I remember back in the day when I was doing more video stuff using Avid and people that even if you remember Avid, kind of just goes back to the old school way of thinking, linear editing. And obviously Adobe and Apple are like the brand names of today’s world, but in that right. So you’re talking about more so the production side of things. What do you do as far as your copy editing? Copywriting? Are there any particular software that you use for that?

No, I don’t. I work with just Google Docs, which I really love. Google, just how they created the Excel spreadsheets, anything like this and made it accessible for people love you, Google.

They love you back.

I know, right? They’re like, we’re watching you and we love you. But my mother is an editor, Diane Dodge, so she’s a storyteller. When I was a child, brought me to sleep with my leg aches and would tell stories. So she’s the heartbeat of that. And so honestly, I’m so blessed, like my brother, as well as a genius writer, genius editor. Like, ah, I love their talent. And so usually I’m a little bit spoiled, as in I can just, hey mom, will you edit this? And so I’ve always had that ability to send in my work and trust that because she was a medical transcriptionist, so we can really fast, we can catch all the errors real quick, and then she will support me on that. But I’m also an editor myself, so again, this is like you could call me what’s the word? Naive or rookie status. And I hear you, so the critics can send me a letter. That’s fine, we’ll take it. I’m kidding. I almost am a rebel. I don’t want to edit my work. I don’t want to do anything. I just think it’s perfect. Again, it could be an error. I could be called out, it’s fine. But I really think I write so well that it’s done, and that’s kind of my truth. And of course, I’m going to follow whether I work with Hay House or whoever has offered me a book deal, then I will hire their team to edit it and do everything properly, because you should always triple, quadruple times ten, check things. It’s important to present yourself. Well. I believe that, but yeah, I guess I’m just really kind of confident in my ability to also catch it, and also my mother will catch it or whoever, and then we’re good to go. So that’s the way I work.

Right. So in this next question, let’s just say I’m a teenager, or maybe I’m in my early 20s, right? And I’m hearing your story, and I’m like, okay, she’s a literal Disney princess, and at the same time, she’s a production artist, she’s a writer. She’s all these different facets. Right? What words of wisdom would you give to an individual that hears this podcast and wants to follow in your footsteps?

I would tell them to trust yourself, to really develop that relationship, to trust yourself and to listen to your intuition of carving that path, of that self trust. Because everybody, no matter how genius they are, no matter where they are on their path to serve you. Because everybody I truly believe we all serve each other, and it’s divine, if you will, but no matter how famous they are, how successful they are, or what system they’re pitching to you, trust yourself is what I’m going to say, because you do have a unique heartbeat or imprint to bring. And so we need that creativity. We need innovation, and so it shouldn’t be. I mean, again, I believe in following a cookie cutter system just to get something going, just because sometimes people get stuck on the details, and they’re like, now they do nothing because they needed that structure. So I’m not saying don’t take advice or don’t allow structures to support you, but I’m saying deeper than that, to trust yourself, because people will tell you all sorts of things, and they think it’s your best interest because they want to help you. But deep down, you will know the direction of your own projects the best. And so it’s really just being able to be artistic in seeing it as a privilege to make your own decisions. Again, my criticisms, and I receive a lot of coaching, so I do filter, and I’m open to receive, and I get edited all day. Like, if you’re high end talent, you’re going to receive feedback, and that’s just how the industry works. But deeper than that, you can master your own craft and trust yourself. Specifically. Like, for me, if you tell me I should have just picked actress and stuck with it, and who would like to try to do a coaching company or trying to be a script writer, trying to be a producer. You’re all over the place. That really hurt me for a while. Like, you’re all over the place. That made me feel like I was wrong for trusting myself when deep down, I know exactly what I’m doing and I know why. And it’s divine. I have clear instructions in my heart and brain what I’m doing and why it’s going that way. So I just think it’s balance. Like let yourself find the balance of not giving all your power away, but also allowing yourself to receive interjection or help when you need that quantum leap or that breakthrough. But the breakthrough comes from you. And everything is artistic expression. So you should really I recommend you do it your way. Really? Yeah, do it your way.

Nice. How can people find you online? I think earlier you talked about a couple of your websites. What’s your social media profiles? How can they get in contact with you?

Yeah, so I’ll see the main ones because I do have different threads. Whether that’s my YouTube channel, my Instagram or my website. At the moment, those are my main three. So the best way to start is just Jennifer Dodge Pink, because it’s easy to remember. You type in Jennifer Dodge my name, or JD is my production label. And then Pink and I will pop up on Google. So that’s pretty easy to find the pink girl that you might see Tinkerbell. So it’s like easy to find me that way. And then ideally, my website is always guiding you to the next way to work with me or the footway to contact me or the next project I did. Artistic thing I did. So the website is the main one. And then I recommend you follow my Instagram because that’s where you’ll get my stories, where I’ll say the truth, I’ll say maybe secret little messages in my story that disappears. So it’s like a way to see the behind the scenes of my own rabbit hole, if you will. And then you can DM me on Instagram. That’s where I do my modeling or just my self expression there. So. Jennifer Dodge, JD Instagram. And my website. And then I definitely recommend following my YouTube channel, especially when I really launched some big projects coming that will be really exciting to see that grow and interact with my people on YouTube. So those are the three.

Nice. So, going into bonus round, and I was looking forward to asking you this particular question just because I have no idea what you’re going to say. Right. So the question is, if you could be a superhero, any superhero, no matter what brand it is, whether it’s Disney or Marvel or DC, who would that superhero be and why.

Does it have to be a name or can I make it up or anything?

Anything you want. I mean, you could talk about the powers you would like to have if it was to be a superhero.

Okay, see, this is where the responsibility of power comes into play, okay? This is it. And I believe I have this gift in person. I actually believe I have this superpower. So behind the scenes secret of my brain, but it would be levitation, the ability to it’s not just cliche like, I’m going to fly. And truly, you can call me whatever you want to call me. Behind the scenes is fine. But when I perform on this specific stage, like this live theater stage, and when I’m truly channeling characters, I levitate. Like, I swear I levitate sometimes, especially with Tinkerbell, I think I have this superpower, but that sounds a little silly. So it would be the ability to levitate myself and objects. So that’s like telekinesis. So what would the character’s name be? And so the reason just the satisfaction of being able to lift a car or freeze everything and have that telekinetic power. And I would say more like psychic stuff, which I also feel like I have, but just deeper levels of being able to tune into just the truth and then being able to weave elements, if you will. So bend water, bend time, work with flame. So that’s where I see telekinesis or levitation kind of all blends together. Being able to levitate a pencil and be like, it’s about efficiency. Yeah, efficiency. Elves can levitate objects to help with the flow of operations. That’s the super.

So it sounds like if I was to put it in a name brand, I would probably put Marvel. I would probably put Xmen, and I would probably say the Phoenix, which is Jean Gray. And she has everything that you just listed. She has telekinesis, she has flames. She could pretty much stop time, control everything. And it’s to the point to where it’s all engulfing inside of her. And then she became the Phoenix, where she can then rebirth herself. She’s impossible to die, essentially.

Whoa. Yeah. Identify with that for sure. Who’s the new one with Elizabeth Olsen? It’s like that new TV show.

Oh, WandaVision.

Yeah. Wanda vision. That’s been but yes, the Phoenix. I would definitely resonate with that, for sure.

Yeah. So another bonus question for you, a little bit more on the serious side, right? If you could spend 24 hours with anyone, dead or alive, uninterrupted for those 24 hours, who would it be and why?

Right now, it would be Einstein. And why is because I am researching Einstein’s work. I enrolled in a master’s program, and I’m writing dissertations for lots of different things. I’m building or what my mission is. And really challenging society, challenging history, challenging what’s possible in our complexities as a human or in our complexities as a society. And also really believing that we have so many solutions in front of us, including people that all have geniuses. If we would just work together a little differently or click the dots a little more we have it. Quantum leaping is the words, like, where you can overnight success. Something like just unravel it, and then it’s like poof, an empire appeared out of nowhere. Because I really believe we have that in front of us at all times for so many things. Like, yeah, like world peace, anti violence, no one should be hungry in the world. I could just rant and preach and speak to things. But my point is deeper than that. Why Einstein? Again, it might be cliche, but he truly was genius and had so many things he challenged with the theory of everything and even just the butterfly effect. Or just recently, I discovered his quote, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its life believing it’s stupid. And I remember that being one of my favorite quotes ever of like, see, you’re just on the wrong path. You don’t have to judge yourself and how powerful that quote was. But just recently, this past month or two, I had a new intuition about it, and I challenged it and thought, what if that fish was meant to climb a tree? Why are we limiting a fish to climb a tree? I don’t like that. And I got laughed at and kind of again, bullied. Not bullied. That’s the difference. But just, it hurts my soul to feel like people judge me for my ability to challenge deeper, and I just trust myself. Like, well, you can laugh all you want, but I’m going to keep researching. And I did keep researching, and I discovered as a couple of weeks ago that fish do have evolved to climb trees. So that was really like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing. And so, you know, I could say more about why I want to speak with Einstein about the butterfly effect. And he believed that you can’t calculate he believed in calculating patterns and things, but then he also believed that you can’t predict a butterfly effect. So that’s why I want to speak with him, to really speak to him as his evolved soul or his dead soul, if you will, and be like, let’s talk about what is possible. Again, let’s reopen your series, but let’s transform them in a different with JD, you know, conversations. So that’s what I’m after is just evolving humanity, if you will, and really seeing what’s possible in society through his work and reinventing it even. So that’s why I think that would be, like, incredible.

I think that’s totally awesome. When somebody asked me that question on my own show, that was my answer. My answer was definitely Einstein for similar reasons, like you. And it’s kind of like going back to the fish analogy, right? Einstein was being viewed as a child, as being a dumb dog, and in reality, he was just not being utilized as he is. What he grew into me. So it’s all about the perception of. The individual and the thing that he did what he did during Holocaust and he was Jewish. Right. I mean, think about the racial things that he had to overcome in the journey to become who he is and who he is remembered as being. It’s crazy when you think about who Einstein was.

Wow. Yeah, I feel it in my legs. I’m like, wow. Yeah.

So going into closing, I think this is definitely a great interview, and I usually get whoever I’m interviewing the microphone to ask me any questions that may have came up during our interview. The floor is yours.

Yeah, I guess. What’s your biggest project that you’re going forth into and what’s your in 20 years answer?

To start backwards. Right. So my 20 year answer is to pretty much have a platform that can influence and help people on their journeys and to overcome, because a lot of times there’s so much information and people don’t know what to do with the information. So the Boston Case brand is essentially helping people on their journey to the podcast, helping entrepreneurs find their way to say, you know what? I’m going to step out on fate, and I’m going to create something. I’m going to develop my legacy, and I’m going to go into business for myself. And then behind the scenes is going to be part two of your question was, what am I really working on? So originally I was working on courses. I was going to create some courses to kind of help everybody. I was like, Courses are so one off. Like, I can create a course on how to do Facebook ads. I can create a course on how to create podcasts. But what I really need to do is structure my courses into an academy. And the academy needs to be targeted towards the individuals that I’m talking to you. So if I’m talking to authors because I’m an author, if I’m talking to podcasts because I’m a podcaster, if I’m talking to entrepreneurs because I’m an entrepreneur, that’s the bigger thing that I’m working on. How do I create this ecosystem of getting people to understand, okay, you could be a podcaster, but it’s always another level. You could be an author. They could always be another level and create this community of people interacting. And then there’s the overlap. Like, I always believe that every podcaster and every author, they’re one and the same. Every person that creates a book should have a podcast. Everyone that creates a podcast should have a book. But what does that really look like and what’s the steps to get that achievement? So that’s kind of where I’m at.

Yeah, I like that it’s important to have those pathways because to know exactly just ABC really clear there is a lot out there of information and what you should do or you get used to ticktock, and now it’s clubhouse or it’s whatever. So just knowing those what’s possible is really cool.

Definitely. Well, definitely, if you have any other questions, this would be the time. If not, then any other questions?

What are you reading?

I have a whole book club, so I can kind of tell you our Book of the week right now. It is. I think hustle hard by $0.50. That’s the book that we’re reading this week.

Oh, wow. I know you have a book club. You ever get tired of that’s a silly question, but do you ever get burnt out of all the content is what I’m asking. Like having books because I get overwhelmed by content, like you said, of just having so much information, and then it’s amazing to have so many amazing resources. So do you ever feel like information overload or are you always filled it up because you’re enriched?

I guess I think for me, it kind of goes back to sacrificing, right? To kind of be the pinnacle point of your target community. So in my community of people, they’re essentially looking to me to facilitate this information in a structure to them. So as myself, I have to sacrifice the time and not really it’s funny because I interviewed someone like, a couple of weeks ago and they were saying to be successful, you have to be okay with being bored, and you have to be able to push through being bored to get to the next level of that achievement. So sometimes you may hit the hurdle. Like, reading a book per week is the goal of the book club, the 52 week. Right. And I always say that, think about most successful CEOs. They accomplish 60 books per year. So 52 is actually a shortfall. But I have to kind of train people into reading a book a week and strategize on how to do that. And to your point, not be overwhelmed. How do you take parts of a book? How do you dissect the book? How do you speed up audiobooks so you kind of get more content a lot faster and kind of goes into me creating a journal. So now you have a journal to listen to your audiobook, to take notes, all of these things. I’m sacrificing my time to structure it to where other people can kind of learn from my example and take it and go and grow with it moving forward.

Yeah. See, I don’t believe in boredom, but I hear you too, of discipline or that yeah, you set up the foundations and then you set up long term success and unlock it for others to hustle harder. I wonder, do you find that you clash with certain books? You choose like you regret choosing it, or you learn or you don’t resonate? Or does that happen?

I don’t want to say. I think it happens. I think more so what I’ve learned is ecosystems, right? I’m a podcast host, so if I was to separate my book club from my podcast, I think it’ll be a chore because I’m doing two separate things. But in this particular episode, you’ve probably listed off maybe four to five books. So what am I going to do then? I’m going to take those books and I’m going to flow them into the book club and then I’m going to base upon your recommendation. So I’m always going to have content for the book club. I’m always going to have resources because I’m always going to be interviewing people like you that are in the space and the mindset that these books have been influential in your life. And again, this podcast is about influencing others. So I’m being influenced by the books that you guys are reading. Now obviously I have my own book choices as well, but because I’m doing 2345 podcasts a day on average, that’s 25 books per day that I could easily flow into the book club without having to think twice about it. The only thing I’ll have to do is go in and get the book and read it myself.

Wow.

Yeah, systems just put systems in place.

That’s really cool to see that organized. And the flow, it just is abundant. It doesn’t stop. That’s amazing.

Yeah, it’s an ecosystem that essentially feeds itself and part of that is like my podcast. You’re familiar with podcast? My podcast upcoming talk is about why every podcast should have a directory. And it’s the same thing. A directory is self funded by the principal. So if I’m writing books, guess what? My book club is a directory of books. My podcast then has a directory of people that I’ve interviewed and it becomes a marketing tool for both myself and the person I’m interviewing. So imagine you have your image on my directory and here’s a list of services. Here’s your contact information. It’s all self funded information within one ecosystem to grow and grow and expand its brand out over a period of time.

Yeah, I see. Yes. That’s really cool.

Well, I’m not going to suck up any more of your time. I definitely appreciate it. I think you brought a lot of things to the table and just thinking about you being the talent boss and being a literal Disney princess is epic in itself. So I definitely appreciate you and thanks for coming on the show today.

Yeah, thank you so much. It was a pleasure and I really appreciate it.

Great. SA Grant. Over and out. Sweet.

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