Founder & Owner Of Prophesy Comics: Mckinley Mitchell Jr. AKA The Comic Boss – S2E67 (#95)

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Three, two, one. Welcome back to Boston Cage podcast on today, we got, like, a flashback from, like, the past, me and this man. We go back since, I think, like, early 2000s, we actually were at Arsenal school together. For those of you that know that my first degree was graphic design. And we was working at a computer lab at the time, back in the same school. And this man always had a drawing book, pen and paper. And I remember the first time I met him. He had on, like, an Asian Samurai fusion hat on, just walking around with a book with markers in his hand drawing all the time. So without a doubt, I’m going to name him the comic book boss for obvious reason. So McKinley man, tell people a little bit more about who you are.

Yes, sir. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Introduction. Mckinley Mitchell Jr. Comic book artist, like you said, I’ve been doing it a long time. Originally from Michigan, moved down to Georgia, started artist in 1986. That was my first time I started, but that was my first year of high school as well. Who’s a culture shock for me. So I didn’t last long, maybe a semester. So after that, I was just doing around, getting our jobs. I was still doing a lot of drawing because I was living with my sister and her husband at the time. And one day we were just all out in the front yard when his friends came by and he was introducing us all. And he introduced me and he was saying, this is my brother in law. He’s going to have his own comic book company one day. I had never thought about that, but he would see me draw comic book characters all the time. So I was like, yeah, I’m going to have my own comic book company one day. So that’s kind of how that started off for me.

You bopped the bubble right off that in today’s world, when you say comic book company, we have, like, I like to call them, like, the east and the west. Right? We have DC on one hand, and we have Marvel on the other hand, and then everyone else. It’s kind of like two big ass Sharks and all the fish are kind of floating around. So let’s talk about your comic book brand from it. What’s the concept behind it? What’s the motivation? What’s the goals behind having your own comic book prophecy comics?

Since I’m black, obviously, it was kind of toward the black community. So that’s what I kind of focus on. And so that was my goal to have to do comic books that black people and black kids want to read and look at. And it kind of turned into responsibility for me. So that’s where I kind of met with it right now. I feel more responsible that I have to do this as opposed to something I want to do you.

Did. So let’s just talk about, like, how many books have you have a comic book brand? It’s not just a comic book, right? So obviously someone would want to write a book. And obviously in the publishing space that I’m in, you write and publish books on a regular basis. But comic books are a bit different. They’re not like kid books that are like coloring books. They’re not like story books. They’re a totally different monster, totally different creative process. So just talk about it a little bit. How many books have you released? What issue and series are you in right now?

We’re back in 93 is when I first published my first book, that was Lionheart. And at that time, I published two issues of that back then, it was different. There was no computers. So I did everything on paper, no scanning all that. And we had to send it to a printer. And they did the separation. So back then, I just had that one character I was learning. Everything worked then. But now, after I went back to the artist, two artists. Excuse me. I went back to the artist and learned, like, computer programming and stuff of that nature. That was my intent. And then after I left the artist, I thought I might try and work for other companies and stuff, but that didn’t go well. So I started again with my own characters, which was The Sun Hawks, which new addition, which I’ve done three issues of that. There are more teenage based characters where Lionheart was a more older character. So this time, I’m a focus more on teenage based characters. This addition and I also have a King Kick that I released, which is a remodel of The Lion Heart.

So if my account is correct, you released about six different episodes.

Exactly.

How long is each one of these comics right now?

Each one is 24 pages. And since it’s me, I do all the artwork, all the writing. It might take me three months to finish one. So I’m like trying to have a six book story of the Sun Hawks and just have that as a package that will make it easier for me to sell. So that’s where I’m at with got you.

I just want people to kind of understand. I mean, he dropped a couple of different information that if you understand graphic design, like separations. And he went back to the old school, like, back in the day. Nowadays, you could take a picture. You can send it to the printer. They don’t send you separations. They send you the product. And that’s kind of like print on demand back in the day, right. When we had to print something, there’s something called CMYK, which breaks down the four main colors that are combined to create everything that you see in print. So when you hear separations, you’re going to get four separate files that separate out the Cyan, the magenta, the yellow and black. So you’re going to get essentially four copies of the same exact book in layered files to look for inconsistencies and look for errors. And then they’re going to combine these four layers back together to get the product that you get on your shows and magazines and comic books right now. So just the fact that you were essentially you were drawn it by hand. So coming into your style, like you’ve been having the same stylistic look. But in today’s world, it’s so computerized. So is it more difficult for you to kind of get that, etchy hand drawn look on a computer versus just hand drawing out every single cell in a comic?

Good point. That was something that I did adjust to when I started drawing on the computer tablet and drawing in the computer. That was a new adjustment, but I was able to capture the style and the way that I wanted to. That was a good point. I’m glad you broke that down like that.

Yeah. Just thinking about that. Right. So why did you stay with that style? I mean, you had an opportunity to go from, like you said, the Lionheart was like your old. It’s kind of like the lion generation, right. But now you have, like, the Cubs talking to millennials. Why did you keep the same style? But you seem like you changed the content. Why was that a conscious decision for you?

Possibly because that’s just my style and it was working for me. And I didn’t want to look like because there’s a certain look at all the other. It seems a lot of the comics seem to go towards this anime look now, which wasn’t never really my field. I didn’t necessarily like the way that looks, the way I draw things. So I just want to kind of stay with my style, adapted some of that. But I want to keep because I’m a little older than a lot of these casters out here now. +And I’m used to the older Jack Kirby’s and the job simmers those type of artists. That’s what looking at. So that’s the style I have. So that’s the one I just stuck with got you.

I think you’re more so kind of like the original Superman from, like, back in the 30 to 40, 50, 60 era with, like, the hard draw lines and the large upper body small torso before they kind of got to the overexaggerated Marvel universe that we live in right now. Nice. So if you could define yourself in three to five words, what three to five words would you choose three to five words?

Define myself. I’m a husband. I’m a son, and I’m a brother who at this point spend most of the time doing a lot of drawing back here in my office. So that’s probably more than three or five. But that’s about where I’m at right now.

So coming into, like, being an artist now we always hear we come from the same school of thought. We went to the same art school. And as an artist, you always have the fear factor or the enough annuity and insight to realize that starving artists is a real terminology, right? It’s kind of like if you want to live for your art form, you kind of have to die by it. You have to get arrested by it. And then after you’re dead and gone is when that shit really blows up. So in that, like, how does that work for your business? How is your business structure? Are you 100%? Your business is 100% designed to sell comics, or do you have other facets to that?

Well, as far as do I want to sell other things Besides comics?

Yes. How is your business set up right now? Talking about, like, starving artist. I’ve known other people that do illustrations, and I got one guy in my circle. He’s a Barber, but he does illustrations on the side, and he does meetings. He goes to art festivals and he sells his artwork. He gets people to submit custom orders to him. But he focused here on a regular basis. And that’s how he monetizes his art. His art is like his side hustle. But for you, your art is your main hustle. So kind of like you’ve got comics. What else do you have in partnership with the comics to kind of scale grow.

Right now? Financially? The comics aren’t where I want them to be. So I do have, like, things that I do to pay the bills. Like my family has a business that they have been doing my whole life with care and stuff like that. So I do that on the side. But my main focus is my comic books and beating them off the ground. But fortunately for me, I have that to back me up as I’m working on that and getting financially steady with my books and stuff got you hopefully branch off into because the Sun Hawks characters that I design. I design them to have toys and possibly on television and stuff like that. So hopefully it’ll pick up that way because I design them for that purpose.

Yes. Not a problem. So I’m just thinking about with your brand and you’ve been around for, like, it seems like roughly 20 years in comic book feel you ever thought about, like going to digital content? And I know, like, you’re old school, in a sense. You like the texture of the paper. You like the pages. You like somebody to roll it up and hold it in their hand and walk around with the comic book. But there’s a whole new generation of people that would like to learn exactly from the comic books, right? Not just on how to illustrate, but how to publish it, right? How to create a company behind it, right? Like the ins and out that goes behind the scene because on the front, and they may just see the combo. They may see it on the stands or they may find it on Amazon or whatever and make a purchase, but they don’t know the process behind it, but they want to get into commercial developments. Have you ever thought about going into, like, an online education site?

Not necessarily. I have thought about making my books digital. I am currently making one of the books digital where you can upload and purchase it. But I hadn’t thought about going into the education or teaching because I’m not necessarily a good speaker. So I do a lot of talking. So that’s why I avoided that, although, because my mother was a teacher, I would think that I could do it naturally, but I just hadn’t got into it. But I am going digital with some of my products.

Got it. I wouldn’t think of you as like, not a good speak. I just think that When’s the last time you’ve been in front of a camera having a conversation like this, let’s start with that.

I can’t even remember I haven’t been in front of the account.

Yeah, we’re popping the cherry. Right. So as you do this more and more often, like I said, you went to College with me. So I wasn’t like this in College. I was kind of like I was crazy in a while, but I wasn’t in front the camera kind of do. So I kind of grew into this over time. And once you kind of get you get your juices flowing and same thing with a pen and paper, it just comes naturally. It becomes more like your mom again. I wasn’t a natural at it, right? I had the Cerebral 360 brand. I was always behind the scenes. Never want to be in front of camera, much like you in that sense. And then I got to the point. I was okay. I need to start stepping in front of the camera and start building this legacy and giving information. So I’m just saying it from one brother to another, maybe transitioning touches into that space a little bit, creating some YouTube content of YouTube videos and then converting those YouTube videos into a membership website. I don’t think there’s a lot of membership websites out there on training on how to create a comic book from start to finish. So I would think that would be a hell of a fruitful space because everybody in a mom loves DC and loves marble. Kids want to start growing and creating content their own things.

Yeah. With this internet and social media, you can just have you upload your stuff and you have your own company.

I would think as an add on to that. I mean, you do it anyway. I mean, you could just do a time lapse of your sketches and your drawings. And like you said, you’re drawing 24, 24 hours a day. So imagine how much content you’re letting slip through your fingers. If I were drawn like you, I would have my camera on. I would have a camera on my damn walking around.

I have tried to record some of my drawings and things, but, yeah, and taking this interview was exactly the reason all that what you just said. So I could get used to being in front of the camera and being interviewed because I know this is coming. So I had to take this interview.

I definitely appreciate that. So let’s talk about your business. I mean, you have a combo brand. Is it set up like an LLC? Is it like a sole proprietor Scorp? What is it?

I got my LLC. So, yes, it is set up like that. And that stuff that I’m still learning all that business part of it because I am just basically the artist and my wife helps me. Then we have an accounting guy helps us with that part. So, yes, I do have the LLC now getting more business savvy with it got you.

And if I remember correctly, I think your wife, she went to school with us as well, too. And she’s pretty damn business savvy. So she wrote a couple of books as well, right?

Yes, she did. She’s currently writing scripts. Yes, she wrote some books, but she’s more outgoing. And whatnot she’s a better salesperson than I am.

Well, I mean, it takes two believe that you need a team.

That’s another thing. You need a team. Whatever you’re doing, you got a good team around you that helps.

So let’s talk about the perception, right? I think we kind of jump around some time frames, and the perception is that somebody may hear. Okay. He has six live issues that have been manufactured, printed and sent to the printer and their physical books. Right there’s. Some people thinking about creating a comic that would probably never create a comic. But you’ve created six. And so how long did it take you to create what you have right now? So the perception, maybe 20 years, 15 years. How long have you been on the journey?

Like I said, The Lionheart. When I did that one in 93, I probably started that story, started that in 1990, drawing on that book. That first one was finished in $93. And with that one because I didn’t know the proper dimensions. I drew that book. And when I took it to the guy to do the separations and print, he was like, well, it’s not the right dimensions. You might have to draw that all over again. So I had to redo that book. So that might have took me a year. But once I graduated from an artist, because now I use Photoshop and illustrator and all that stuff. And I can crank out a book in, like, three months, which is pretty good for someone doing a book by themselves.

The drawing and writing all of that brings me to another behind the scenes kind of question. So you’re doing it like the traditional, almost like cell animation. Drawing it. Right. You’re doing a lot. You’re penciling it, you’re inking it, and then you’re coming in with the color on top. So they might want to know the process of books like that’s, like the bare minimum. It’s pencil ink and then color. Right. And then the fourth step, if you get to it, is shading and like the details. Essentially, you’re redrawing the picture four damn times. Right. So with that, is this something that you think you could scale? Could you train? Because think about, like, Disney, for example, Disney created characters, but he created a step by step, how to create characters. And then he scaled it. He got all the artists that have skills already. So it wasn’t really a learning curve for them. They just need to follow his steps and procedures to make the new characters and step and repeat. And obviously, you can see what Disney has created because of him scaling to that magnitude. Right. So did you ever think about jumping into scaling by training other people? Obviously, you’d have to have legal documentations, non competes, and all that in place. But is that something you ever thought about?

I think about that having a staff in the near future? Yes, I have thought about it. But as far as drawing my characters, I haven’t thought about, like, a process of having to show someone how to draw the characters. I guess what you’re asking me, but I have thought about having the staff, but that’s somewhere in the distant future. Hopefully, I have other artists, but I’ve come to the point where I don’t know, just a good thing. But I just want to do this myself, my characters and my stories. Those are the stories I want to tell myself and that’s reality. I wouldn’t mind having a company where if someone else has their own characters and ideas, if they want to come up under the company, that’s fine. But currently I’m so into just producing this myself. I want to draw it all myself.

Okay. So let’s say, obviously, you’re a big creative thinker. Right? Let’s say parallel universe, right? Time travel is real. If you could time travel back, what’s one thing that you would want to change to do differently if you could do it all over again?

If I could time travel back, I would not waste the time. I would learn to. I would have been more consistent. When I started the Common book back in 93, I would have stayed with it. I would have went back and tell myself, stay with it. Don’t let that time separate. You stay with it and keep going. So that’s that I would change just to stay with it.

Yeah. It makes a lot of sense, man. Everybody that I could think about that’s within my circles. That’s a common theme, right? It’s being consistent. Not only to yourself, but to your brand and to your viewing or listening or your client database of people and staying consistent. And when that consistency kind of falls off, usually that’s when shit hits the fan, either you start losing clients or, like you said, you had a gap in your comic book career, and then you trying to figure things out. You came back to it, but then reliving it. If I can go back in time and stick to it, what will be differently right now if I had not had that two year or that five year or that three month gap in that time frame. So it’s definitely interesting. But you’re back on it now. And like you said, you’re definitely motivated and you’re eager to kind of keep creating this content so early on, you alluded to something that I want to kind of come back in. So if I remember correctly, you come from an entrepreneurial family, like your mom and your ancestors had a business, but also your dad, I think he was a musician, and he had, like, live records and all the other stuff. Right. So let’s talk about these two coins for a little bit.

Well, yeah, my dad pretty decent Blues in that 60s, 70s error he doesn’t work with, like Aretha Franklin and Jackson five used to open up for him. So he was a decent name during this time. So I always have that over my shoulder to try and at least get to the point that my father did. You know what I’m saying? He is an inspiration for me, my mother as well. But he isn’t really an inspiration.

Did your dad record any music? Did he have any albums get put out back then in the 50s.

He had hit the charts. The town I lived in was one of songs that got on Billboard and The End of the Rainbow. That was all also on the charts, but also they used the songs in a couple of movies and soundtracks and stuff like that. So he did very well.

I hope you guys got the royalties to that for sure.

My mother does get royalty.

Yes, sir. That kind of brings me up to like, it’s kind of like an off topic question. But being that you come from a bloodline that your dad was a creative person, he created content. And even to this day, like if his songs are being played on music or being played in movies or being played in commercials, then you get that mailbox money. So you’re trying to say, are you striving for that to a point to where you can leave behind a legacy, which are comic books, to where your ancestors will get mailbox money as well?

Yes, that’s exactly the goal at this point. We don’t have any children, me and my wife, but I still wouldn’t want to have a legacy left here for the family to know I did this nice.

So how do you juggle your work life with your family life?

That’s a good question to my wife. She will quickly tell me I need to spend more time and probably do something romantic because I’m always back here drawing. So it is a juggle. But I have her to remind me, let’s just get out and go do this. Come out of office. But for me, I’m an introvert and I’m comfortable back here not being bothered. That is a struggle to get me out of office and do something else got you.

So she’d actually be more romantic. Does she write romance novels?

Yeah. I guess she would call romance. Yes.

That’S funny, because I would say you read her books. I think in her book, she’s probably giving you the clues that you need. Right? I would say a word of advice every single time you start drawing, keep her books nearby. Turn to a chapter. All right. So what is your morning routine? Look like my morning routine?

I’m usually up around 800 830. If I’m not doing something with the family business, I’m usually right in here turning on the computer. I do a little workout, so I might do some push ups or something like that. Pull ups, get the blood turculating, green juice drink. I do that on the morningly basis. But if I don’t have any appointments to where I have to go, because what we do is write up care homes for elderly or disabled. So if I’m not doing that, I’m in my office and I’ll draw from, say, nine. I’m drawing all day from 09:00 Friday to 09:00. My wife works in the evenings and she’ll leave around 03:00. She’ll get home about 10:00. So when she gets home, then I’ll probably stop drawing. So when I’m drawing, it’s an all day thing.

Obviously, it’s just crazy because I’m thinking about back when we were in College together, it’s like your passion for drawing is exactly the same. And before we start this podcast, we were just talking about. Obviously, we’re connected to multiple different people we went to school with, and everyone’s paths went differently, and there’s some overlap, including my own right. But you have always been 100% passionate about that damn paper and pen, man.

Yes, I can’t explain it, but I’ve always been that way. Anyone that knew me coming up through elementary, junior high school, College. You’re going to say what you’re saying? He’s always had that pencil and that paper in his hand, and you really couldn’t get them to do anything else. I do dabble since my father was at the time, but mostly I’m drawing. But if I wasn’t drawing, I think I would have been a musician.

Be more like bass guitar.

All of that. I can play all bass guitar, keyboard. And I can play by ear, like by hear a song I can play.

It sounds like you have, like, a parallel calling that you hear it. But you kind of like pencil and paper, right.

Because I’m back and forth. It always came back to me drawing, but I am filled with musical district.

So I would think, like with your schedule being so consumed by your passion of drawing. Right. And this is the question that I’m going to ask just to see what your answer is going to be right. It’s a three part question. One, like, have you read any books to get you to where you are, right? Or audio books, for that matter? I would think while you’re drawing, you probably listen more than you have time to physically read. And currently, what books are you reading right now? And have you had the opportunity to write any books outside of your comics, much like what your wife has done?

I haven’t wrote any books outside of the comics. The only actual hard novel I’ve ever read is probably the Malcolm X biography automatic outside. Then growing up, comic books were the only thing I read. You know what I’m saying? But now I’ll listen to YouTube videos and stuff like that. But it’d be like Jack old Jack Kirby comic book artist videos just give inspiration while I’m drawing or someone more. Currently, maybe someone like Alex Ross watches interviews. He’s a very good artist. He’s a current artist, but he’s dope.

And again, I’m just going to drop some information. You could take it or you could leave it. Right. I just think you’re the one person that I’ve known for the past 20 years has been as passionate as you are about one thing. And anytime you think about a business, it’s about niching down to one core thing. And you’ve been doing that one core thing for so long. It’s almost like the world needs to kind of get that information from you. Like, part of leaving behind your legacy is being able to take everything that you’re doing and put it out there for the world to see. So imagine you writing your story in a comic book book, like not a comic book, but a six by nine book. That’s a comic book. But it has written content about your story, but you’re depicting your journey. But you’re inspiring people to get on that same journey with you. I mean, you know, it Cole, you know, about heart. You’re really doing comics. And let me say it’s a little bit of a shift. It’s a little bit of a shift, but it gives you way more of a longevity to have, like, a playbook, a handbook, like the McKinley Handbook of Comics.

Right. I got you. That sounds good. I’ve thought about because I have all this stuff put together, and I have thought about how can I package this to show people the process? So that is something I’m trying to figure out. How can I put something like that together?

Cool. Well, you got access to me at this point. I’ve published seven books, so it’s second nature for me at this point. So it’s like giving you the guidelines and steps and procedures on how to set it up. I could do that with my clothes.

See you out there. Okay. Yeah, that’s what’s up. I’m looking through it.

All right. So in time frame rise, right. Where do you see yourself? 20 years from now?

20 years from now? Hopefully, I’ll still be drawing and doing my music, but the company will be where I want it to be. But if I’ll be doing what I’m doing because I feel like I’m doing what I’m supposed to be doing. So if I’m doing this in 20 years and people are still liking what I’m doing, I’m great if they’re receiving the work that I’m putting out, that’s fine with me.

Okay. So what tools or software that you use currently today, right. And I think you had mentioned Photoshop earlier that you would not be able to execute what you’re doing right now.

Well, at this point, if I didn’t have the Photoshop or the illustrator, I wouldn’t be able to execute because that helps me scanning my pencils. It helps me color, because once I do the pencils, I scan the pencils in and I ink and color everything illustrator Photoshop. So that’s basically what I use. And almost the same programs I had from the school, but it was working for me.

Yeah. Like I said, it goes back to you. You’ve been using the same tools for, like, for 20 years. I mean, obviously the tools have changed. And now Photoshop Miles will be after effects, but it’s the whole different ballgame. And you’re using it for the traditional stuff. Still, to this day. Definitely. Interesting.

Yeah. Because the talent for me was always there. So any of these tools are just gravy just icing on the cake because I always had the ability just to do drawing, like, 3D scope work I could do.

Got you. Your major was 3D animation, right? You did do some recent 3D. You do more. So like, frame animations. Like you did something, Brucey recently. Brucey, what you do it. I always remember, Russie. What you mean you can do, like, still? I mean, like, kind of like, old school. Anybody like this is for younger generations. If you remember flipbooks. And if you don’t remember Flipbooks, essentially a book of a series of images that slightly move per frame. So when you would flip the book, it will become animated from page to page. So back in school, this dude used to be doing this all the time. Like, in the corner of these little books, it should be like these little doodles and drawings. You would flip the damn book, and it’d be like a whole damn illustration animation. People jumping around doing back flips and sidekicks. So are you still doing animations on that level?

I have some animation that I’m trying to do with my characters because I’m working with Flash and that flash. So I do my animation in that. So I am doing animation as well.

Okay. So let’s go into, like, final words of wizard. Let’s say I’m a 13 year old kid, right. And my dad is listening to this particular episode, and he’s like, looking, listening or whatever. He has Marvel old playing in the background. Or he’s looking at Iron Man Three, and he’s like paying attention to this episode. And you could talk through the microphone and talk to this kid that’s 13 years old. What words of wisdom would you give to him to influence them, to follow his dreams, to continue drawing and becoming a comic book artist?

Well, if they’re 13 and they already love to draw and they see they have the talent, what I would tell them is stick with it and surround. Get around people that like what you’re doing, that like to create as well and stick with it. That’s all I can tell someone if they love it and it’s working for them, stay with it. Don’t give up on it.

Solid words of wisdom. So how can people find you online, man? Like what’s your Facebook, your Instagram, your website.

I’m on Facebook, Prophecycomments or McKinley Mitchell on Facebook. Get the products at prophecycomments. Com. Also, you could email me at Prophecycomments at Yahoo. Com. Those are all my sites right now.

Got a couple of bonus questions for you.

Cool.

All right. So if you could spend 24 hours in a day with anyone dead or alive, uninterrupted for those 24 hours.

Who would it be and why you had this question? I heard this question the other day when I heard you asked on this question, the first person that came to my mind was Bruce Lee. But I was thinking about it. Bruce Lee would be dope. But also, just if I could spend time with an ancestor, like an ancestor before we were brought over here from slavery just to see how they kicked it and lived in that day. And there was no language barrier, I would say one of my ancient ancestors, I would love to see how they got down before colonization.

Another question for you, what is your most significant achievement to date?

Most significant achievement? Wow. I guess I would have to say my marriage maintain my marriage, I would guess.

Yeah. Damn it. Creeping up for 20 years now.

Yeah. I’m going to say that my marriage having someone that you a partner in your life for that amount of time.

Obviously, you’re a comfortable guy. So I got to get you get into the countable questions. And I see you rocking a DC shirt right now. So I’m going to ask you the question because it doesn’t mean that you don’t love Marvel. It doesn’t mean that you love DC. If you had to choose between DC or Marvel, who are you going with?

Wow. That’s like apples and oranges. I’m going to say Marvel I guess I’m a bigger Marvel. It almost depends on the day, what day you catch me. But I’m going to say Marvel only because Marvel now in Disney because of the movies, the movies that they’re putting out as a child. I’d never thought I’d have seen movies like this with these characters and stuff. So I would say DC’s movies kind of suck. The sniper version of this superfic is pretty good, though.

But I would say I think you grew up in the dawn of, like, the old school Batman WA Twose and Superman without muscles, right?

Yeah. But I was a DC fan, like, when I was a child. Those were the first comic books I had, like, five, six years old Superman and Batman. Those are the first ones I started reading, and my sister had a boyfriend that turned me on to some Captain America. I might have been nine or ten at that time, but once I seen that Captain America and Jack Kirby and some Conan with John Stemmer, I was on the rap. Nice.

So going into the last bonus question, right. And I know for you, this is going to be a big one. Right? So if you could be a superhero, who would it be in y if you could pick one just one superhero. And it doesn’t matter if it’s DC. It doesn’t matter if it’s Marvel or any other of the universe is out there. Right? Who would it be and why? I knew it was going to be hard for you.

Yeah. I got all these cats in my head that I used to tend to be in every day. I like the concept of the way Shazam, you could be one person in a lightning strike. That’s kind of cool. But as a child, I guess if you would ask me that I would have sent his name. But now I feel like I have superpowers with the talent. You know what I’m saying? My various talents. I feel like a superhero with the talents I have. But I guess Captain Marvel Shazam.

Nice. So going to the closing, man. Obviously, it was a great journey, and we kind of went ups and downs. And I think this was a really cool, fun episode just talking about comic books, because that’s your expertise. But do you have any questions that you want to ask me? So the microphone is yours and the floor is yours.

I didn’t really have any questions. I guess I just want to say I’m proud of where you act. And I was impressed with your journey. I don’t know if I have any questions. I just have to get back at you on that. But I just want to say I’m proud of you. I just want to say that I definitely appreciate it, man. It’s definitely been a hell of a journey. Hell of a ride, man. It’s great to kind of bring people from my past back onto the show now and meet new people. So it’s just information and just spreading the wealth around. Yeah, because I see you out there with your son and stuff. That stuff is beautiful to me.

Yeah, he was the pivotal point, man from when I was in College on some wild man Jack shit and I had a son completely changed my vision.

That’s why I can kind of see your transformation with him. So that is very impressive. I’m proud of all of that.

I definitely appreciate it, man. Well, I appreciate you taking time out your schedule, man, and coming on the show, and I know right now you’re probably twitching ready to get to some pencils and paper and start schedule again, man, but I appreciate you coming on the show today.

No problem. I appreciate it. It’s Friday. I’m about to catch this. Captain America Winterfell.

Perfect man. Sa Grant over and out.