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Boss Uncaged Podcast Overview

“Listen to Gary Vee. He talks about how he sacrificed his 20’s and now he’s reaping rewards from sacrificing his 20’s. And that’s the best way I can put it.
In Season 2, Episode 47 of the Boss Uncaged Podcast, S.A. Grant sits down with the Real Estate Broker & CEO of The Harris Team Realty, William “Bill” Harris.
Laid off from his tech job in 2005, Bill decided to move into the real estate business. As a third-generation real estate agent, his destined path may have already been laid out. Now almost 20 years in the game, Bill has a team of agents that services his clients across metro Atlanta.
That’s the one thing I tell everyone is that when you’re dealing with an agent they might work a nine to five and they just say real estate when they get off work or on the weekend. But real estate has a lot of moving parts and unfortunately to pass the test to get your real estate license, don’t talk about the moving parts.
Don’t miss a minute of this episode covering topics on:
  • Generational entrepreneurship
  • The habit of adding reading to your morning routine
  • The difference between a real estate agent and a real estate broker
  • And So Much More!!!
Want more details on how to contact Bill? Check out the links below!

Boss Uncaged Podcast Transcript

S2E47 William Harris(bill).m4a – powered by Happy Scribe

You got like two different aliases. Let me get this.

Yeah, I feel bad. You got that bad job popping. I’m like, man, I got to get one of those.

Yeah, next time around, man, I know you’re still building your podcast. So I mean, it comes with time, really and truly, as you see things and get your hands on it. Get it and ride with it, man. We recording. So are you ready?

Yes, sir.

Alright. Three, two, one. Welcome. Welcome back to Boss Uncaged podcasts on today’s show. We have well, let me back it up before I tell you who we have on the show. Kind of like figuring out through the great Vin. And this is the beautiful part of having podcasts. You meet one person that lives in Nevada. Edgar right. And I had a podcast with him. And then he was just like, Yo, I got my buddy. He lives in Atlanta, same time you live. And I’m like, oh, really? Hook me up. Then we get on the phone and we have some commonalities. We have some synergy going out to his podcast. So without further Ado, man, bill, how are you doing today?

I’m great, brother. Thanks for having me.

Great. Great. So I mean, give our audience a little bit more insight about who you are and what you do?

Okay. I’m a full time real estate broker and I’ve been fully licensed since 2005. I got the real estate because I was in it and I got laid off in 2005. So when I got my real estate license because I had investment properties, I was thinking I’m in the game. So let me go ahead and go for a time. And and it was good. But then, like what the crash happened? went and got my MBA. So by the time I finished my MBA, real estate was back. So never even went on one interview. Just went full time back in the real estate. Yeah.

So earlier this year we had like, a whole real estate month thing. So we had like, whole sellers, we had funding, we had real estate agents. We also had a guy that kind of buys and flips, but you’re on a different spectrum. I mean, all of those are completely separate from what you do. So kind of break down the differences of the others versus yourself.

So I deal in those rooms too. So I kind of out the box. So I’m not your traditional real estate broker where I just try to go and buy, sell a house. Some people say I wear a lot of hats. Alright. For example, I have one client who came to me. I said, okay, I’m a doctor. I have X amount of dollars in the bank and I want to make a nice return.

Okay.

So I give you the number. I think it was a couple hundred thousand. So it came and said, okay, well, the type of return you want you won’t be able to get with a flip. We have to do several flips and they can just get too messy in not for your first rodeo. So how do you feel about no construction? He said, cool. Let’s go. I said I agree. I found him alive in Sandy Springs, but 300,000 now he’s all in. Let’s say he’s all in at 700,000. I’m going to list the property for 2 million. So after everything, let’s say taxes and fees and we don’t get 2 million. Let’s say we get 1.8. Let’s say Commission taxes is 100. He walked away with $700,000. So unless you know about game stop unless you can day tray. Yeah. 700,000 hell of return.

So I mean, why did you decide? I mean, obviously you could have just stayed as a real estate agent. So kind of define the difference between the standard real estate agent and a broker.

Alright. So standard real estate agent. They kind of start out with their family and friends. And most agents in Atlanta got a hundred different hustles. So whenever someone interviews me, I always say I’m not saying do business with me, but make sure you do business with someone that’s full time, because when you go to a dentist, you don’t go to a dentist that doesn’t do it full time. You can go to a dentist that create LLCs web site. You go to a dentist, the dentistry all day, every day. That’s all they do. So that’s the one thing I tell everyone is that when you’re dealing with an agent because generally agents or someone, they might work a nine to five. And they just say real estate when they get off work on the weekend. And real estate has a lot of moving parts. And unfortunately to test to pass to get your real estate, don’t talk about on moving parts. It just talk about he’s got a couple of surface and you know, I get people come to me all the time like, yeah, Ma was trying dealing with song so I could never reach them. They probably had a job and he’s a broker. We much more hands on. And we generally have some people under us. And to become a broker, you have to be in the field for X amount of time. It’s like medicine school. You know, I have residency. So it’s real estate agent. That’s their residency then as a broker. You now doctor.

So it’s talking about more. So about the brokers, right? I mean, obviously a real estate agent will get paid a Commission for selling a deal. But as a broker, you pretty much have real estate agents under you and you get pieces of their pie as well per their sales. Is that correct?

I do

got you.

I’m not greedy though. I don’t take a lot because most of my agents now and it’s crazy. I got like seven. They were all friends or highly referred and I’m just starting out. So I’ll be the first to tell you, I know real estate, but I don’t have my team down to a science, so they’re almost like guinea pig. I’m like you testing me out. I’m testing you up. So I don’t charge them a lot because I don’t have my systems in place yet. I’m still trying to see what works, what doesn’t work. So I was transparent with me. I’m not charging you a lot because I can’t afford it. I can’t charge you a lot because I’m not. I don’t feel I’m in a position to charge them a lot because I’m not as professional as I need to be. But I told them as we get there. And if you haven’t, once we get there, all prices is going up.

So you’re talking about professionalism. And I think on your journey, you had a lot of successes here and there as well. I mean, you had opportunity to be on, like, a TV show recently. I think it was like 2021. You talk about that show a little bit.

So the show, they reached out to me, 2019. I I thought it was like fraud because and it’s funny too. So they were reaching out to me and Mary, the first light reaching out to me. I never heard of either one of them. So I was just sending a bolster voicemail, not return the calls. So I did some research was like, oh, both of these are real. So of course, I chose the real estate one, and I just can’t see me doing Married first site. I mean, they kept reaching out to me and they won’t stop. So I finally said, okay, I make X amount a month. So unless you’re gonna charge me or give me X amount, stop calling me and they stop coming.

So i mean how do those deals work? I had some other podcast recently where a guy he’s working on his YouTube channel, and he’s trying to work that into, like, a Netflix deal. So how did that business side of television workout for you?

It’s cool. It’s still going. They came to me because they don’t really have that many people in Atlanta. So it was almost. I think at first I wasn’t the first one in Atlanta, but I know I was one of the first ones in Atlanta. So to them, they just approached me and said, hey, we like, your work ethic. We like what you’re doing. And we would like to have it on our show. So as I looked and did some research on and said, okay, it can be a win win for me. I was doing it to try to get on another show, but another show reached out to me, but I could never get what they wanted. So the other show, they specifically want you to have two listing side by side. You know how hard that is.

Does a duplex count?

nah duplex don’t count. They want you to have two houses side by side in the same neighborhood. I like, man, you know how hard it is. So I never got on the second show because I could never get two houses side by side and say, neighborhood. So they wanted to have a show and showing how the two family stays the house or they want to make. I can’t really remember the concept, but I just know that that was the main ingredient, but I never got on the show. And that one the first show that I’m on, it’s Internet show, Apple TV, Amazon. But the other one was going to be like a major network. But I could never get it.

So let’s step back, time travel a little bit like, where are you from originally Just to start with that

North Carolina.

So how did you grow up in North Carolina and decide that you wanted to get into real estate? Because I wouldn’t think that was probably your first choice. But how did you get into it?

Actually, I’m third generation. So my grandfather was in it. My father was in it. My uncle was in it. But I was really my eyes really open to it, because in the eight I saw, my uncle had a house in Durant, Carlina War, and he had a house in Florida, and they both had pools. And I know a lot of people young. They probably don’t think that much of that. But when I was coming up, the black dude with two houses, both of them had a pool and he had multiple porches. There wasn’t settling drugs or wasn’t any field entertainment. I was like, a long hook. I ain’t. You know what real estate was? I like, do real estate? I’m doing real estate.

Nice on this real estate journey. I mean, obviously you became a real estate agent. You became a broker and anybody that’s on an entrepreneurial journey, like you’ve been, there’s always some kind of crazy hurdle or crazy story. What’s the most crazy or interesting thing that’s ever happened to you while on this journey?

I’m dealing with it right now. Yeah, I’m dealing with it right now. You live in Car, right? Yeah. You know what paper mill is?

Yeah, I do.

Okay. You got your phone in front of you?

Phone In front of me

Alright Google 43 41 paper Mill roll.

43

41.

41

Paper Mill Road.

Paper Mill Road, northeast Southeast.

It should just come up.

Yeah. Oka i got it.

alright what do you see?

Well, trying to give me directions.

Go to the house or a rendering, its the rendering.

Is it a new lot or old?

Actually, it’s a house that needs to be torn down. But when you Google, the rendering should come up. Did the rendering come up?

It’s taking me to Google Maps and showing me like, the lot. It’s not showing me anything related to the house.

If you go to Google and just type it in, it should bring it up and not the Li. It should bring up the rendering of the project that I’m currently involved in.

So tell me, tell me more about this project. While i look it up.

So this is a project where the owner has the home on paper mill. I don’t know if you see it.

Yeah, I see the six 0s.

Alright, there we go.

Yeah.

Okay, So long story short, the owner came to me and said I want 1.2 for my land, for my lot. I said, Sir, I can’t get you 1.2, but if you allow me to build on it, I can get you 1.2. So he said, okay, let’s go. Now where it gets tricky. I had a builder who I brought to the table. We tried to go around me, so now I got to start all over and I just acquired a new building. So that’s the most interesting and hurdle I have now because one I start all over to when a lot of money involved people start at the real weird and funny.

Yeah, I’m looking at this property. So just for the viewers that haven’t had opportunity to pull it up. First of all, this damn place have like four garages or eight garages? Like how many garages does this thing have?

You can have six to eight.

Okay. And it’s not like a golf course on the roof.

Yes, that’s play on the roof and what it didn’t have. It has a Cabana in the back. So that’s the one thing it doesn’t have that rendering doesn’t show.

Yeah. Yes, I’m just looking at the rendering. So this thing is going for like $4 million. Yeah, it’s definitely a car resident 100% through and through. So like dealing with properties of that scale. I mean, obviously the commissions could be great, but I would think deals like that probably take a lot longer to close than a standard regular 300,000 $200,000 deal. Is that correct?

Yeah, definitely because it’s so many moving parts. The only well, the main blessing in it is that the owner owns it free and clear. So being that he owns it friend clear, it opens up the possibility. Now it’s still difficult because it’s only a small pool of people that combine that. But you’ll be surprised I’m getting a lot of activity on it and to backtrack a little bit. But we spoke about earlier. The reason it’s been such so difficult is because the first project I was telling you about where the dot is looking at walking away with 700,000. That’s going to be the model house and it’s being completed now and hopefully be done in a month. Hopefully be done. So the problem is whenever someone is buying a house to that magnitude, the first thing they say is okay, well, let me see your work. Well, I haven’t even shown my work because the other house hasn’t been done yet. So that’s why I’m saying it’s so difficult because if so many things out of my control. Your term, like hurting cats. Cats hurting cats.

Yeah.

That’s what is almost like, like hurting cats.

I mean, obviously, there’s different style of brokers, right? There’s one broker that may say, you know, we want a neighborhood full of HUD homes, right. And then you have the other side and you have the middle grade. So you’re obviously on more of the upper echelon. I mean, this one property essentially is $4 million. And I know part of your answer is going to be the commissions are great, but do you have anything else, like a lower grade home in, like, your portfolio or you strictly are on the luxury side of things?

Oh, no, I do flips, too. Like small scale flips.

Okay.

Yeah, I do small scale flips. And actually, I didn’t even do that for the Commission, the one I’m working on for the model house. I just did that because he wanted a higher ROI, so higher risk, higher reward. That’s how they came about. So it’s not. I just set out to be like, okay, I’m the luxury. He just came to me and said he want a certain dollar amount. I said, okay, well, this way, you need to go. And then the $4,000,000.01. I mean, I got it.

He won’t 1.2 just for the land. So for him to get 1.2 for the land, I got to build something that makes sense. That’s how I ended up in a luxury. But no, I’m working on the house now in Atlanta, when the owner bought it for, like, 126. Actually, I’m working out a minority on hedge phone out of California, so they end it for 126, probably going to put 120 into. So let’s say we all in 250, but it just say no problem for 400 got you got you and the scope of things be a hedge fund.

I mean, obviously, that’s not the only deal that they’re probably doing. So that’s still big money collectively based upon how many deals they’re doing. At the same time, I dive into you like a business model a little bit more. Is your system set up like I thought, the other Realtors, and they’re usually underneath a branch, or they’re usually under another realtor or a Realty firm. Is your company set up that way? And if it is, do you have an LLC or S Corp. Or C Corp?

I have an S quote. And I am under PalmerHouse. I’m on the farm house, and I have LLC, too. But I haven’t even used my LLC because I’ve been doing so many other projects for people that have started my own projects. So generally I want to get to my own projects just because I’m tired of making other people rich. I mean, when we close the transaction, it always say cash to sell it. Man. Numbers, numbers beginning crazy. I’m like, man, I’m playing myself.

So we always hear about the 20 years it takes someone to become successful. And the outside, somebody may be listening to this and saying, this guy is selling $4 million houses. He has another deal in Atlanta. That’s, like, 1.5 million. And they never heard of you. Right? So it’s kind of like an overnight success. How long did it take you to get to currently where you are 20 years?

Well, almost. I started O five. So almost.

Okay.

Almost.

If you go backwards in time, what’s one thing that if you could do it all over again.

You would change that’s a lot. But the main thing, not to anybody, go with your gut. As I had so many gut feelings about things, he didn’t do it. I look back and be like, oh, God. And one of them not in real estate. One of them outside the box. It’s in Ethereum. I heard about thereum when it was pennies coin base.

Yeah.

Didn’t get it. I mean, somebody came to me like, the. Yeah, it was crazy. I was, like, didn’t pour pour the trick on something else in that slot. So I would say, go with your gut because my gut said went with Ethereum. But the other one was much more well known. Just be honest with it was trucking should have never got into it, lost a lot of money. And I would say the one thing I learned is stick with what you’re good at. And I’m good at real estate.

So I wasn’t good at tracking. It’s just I just wanted to get another revenue stream, trying to make trying to make money losing moment. I would definitely say someone on the journey make up, go in to good man. Another good I had with the belt line. But at that time, I was doing the recession. I just know how the funds, but I still think I could have made it happen if I just whatever, pump it down and be serious about it because the built line, they were the Bell line by sled digging before the bill line started.

Like before they made the introduction, Mandam, houses going for $10,000. The mile is now selling for 400. Half a million was going for $10,000.

Crazy man.

Yeah.

I mean, the Belt line project has been on the floor for, like, decades. So it’s kind of one of those things. You could have sat and held it. But, you know, your payday. You didn’t know when the payday was going to come.

I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. But you’re right. You didn’t know when. But here’s the thing. Renting Atlanta has always been strong. If something called $10,000, you can rent it. You got your money back the first year.

Yeah, you’re right about that. Definitely right about that.

So that would be the major one, like, the whole belt line, man, I miss like, I miss. I was thinking my stomach about that.

So, I mean, you’re talking about your growing your practice and you’re trying to formulate your team. What kind of systems do you have in place? I mean, how are you finding your leads? How are you managing your team? What you got going on right now?

So my lead, there’s no rhyme or reason with my leads. My leads is calling and trying to stay close with my sphere as well as just trying to take care of people that I’ve done business with. And no, just try to do the small thing. Like, for example, now I got a client that he’s the first time home buyer, and he’s like, hey, man, I need a garage, though. I was like, I cool. I buy garage something for your house. Home in prison. I’m thinking it’s a small gesture floor by.

So.

People remember stuff like that and also, too, in my business, you got to remember people not dumb. So a lot of people in real estate, they think people dumb, like, they really, really, really think people dumb, like, people know when you rushing them. People know when you got other stuff going on, people can sense that and they remember that. So they like, I just felt like I was a number or I was a check. They’re not going to finish with you. So for me, it’s just try not to stay in contact.

In general. I meet somebody we cool. Like, I went to Columbia for new years. I went to Columbia, and this is my second time got one of my clients. So I try to it doesn’t always get there cool. But I try to go with the house afterwards. I just try to stay in contact with them and just let them know. Like, I’m not looking at you like, a check. I’m looking at you because I’m grateful that you gave me an opportunity because you can go in your backyard and pick up a rock and throw and had a real estate agent is that many real estate agents?

So when you do business with me, I’m grateful that you gave me the opportunity because you had to give me an opportunity. And I tried it such.

Yeah, I could definitely. I definitely commend you for that because, I mean, being in the space, I can kind of see that some people kind of look at. Okay. And a lot of times when I talk to somebody, like, if I’m trying to work on land or I’m looking for a land opportunity and I get on the phone with somebody, I’m not going to allude to them about how much I want to spend or really want to spend. I just want to kind of hear what they have to offer based upon something small.

And I may say, hey, I’m looking for, like, 20 $30,000 acre of land South Georgia, and based upon that response. And, you know, it’s going to be something like that. It’s kind of like, answer drop in a bucket, right. But they don’t know that may be a bigger part of a bigger portfolio. And we’re just looking for an add on. So a lot of times people just push that to the side, but it seems like you’re more like. Okay, well, let me work with this person, because this may be the tip of the iceberg also, too.

You never know who know who true. I mean, you never know who know who nothing, right. And you can’t, especially in my book, you can’t judge a book by code. Somebody might pull up in $100,000 car. I got a $100,000 injury and close, and the credit is 400, and they got no money to bank. So you cannot judge a book by its cover. That’s what I would definitely tell anybody on the journey, because most people with money don’t look like it, right? Most people that look like they got money.

I don’t have it. But in society, especially, unfortunately, in our community, they all go to Asian.

Yeah, it’s all about perception, man. Definitely about perception. I think earlier you alluded to you have an entrepreneurial background. As far as, like, you had family members. Like, was that, like, just one particular business? Everybody in the bloodline was more so real estate. Or did you have any other Hustlers in your family?

I would say I have more Hustlers. Unfortunately, one wasn’t legal. I would definitely say I come from a family and husband. All of a legal. It wasn’t that bad. It was just weird. And it’s crazy.

Legal someplace.

Yeah, it’s legal. Now. You know what I’m saying? It’s crazy. So I just think, like, man, are they gonna let other people out that’s on we charges they ain’t gonna have. So, yeah, I come from a family of Hustlers because both of my grandfathers had jobs and have tiles.

Nice. So, I mean, how do you juggle your work life with your family life?

I’m single with no kids, no family.

Well, I mean, you may have aunts, uncles, dad, mom?

Yeah, definitely. So my father see, my mom and I are real close. Actually, my mom doing things like, my mom got a boyfriend. And like, man, they traveled the world like they bought got wife they bought to go to Hawaii. My mom, if he wants for cover, she probably be in Vegas right now. Yeah, she went not disable. She went to the laser world. So my mom got more socialistic. Me? No.

Interesting. What’s your morning routine? Your morning habits.

So I have it. Hold on, hold on. I can show you better. I can tell you people be like, what’s that? So this is a book. I’m not co signing it. They did not ask me to co sign it. But you asked me what’s my morning ritual in this book talk about more than rituals. And it’s also challenging, too. So it also says you should find somebody to think every day now. Struggling. In that part, it says, Get up and meditate. I’m good on that part. I’m good on the meditation.

I’m good on the starting your day. Positive, but it says every day you should just reach out to someone and and say thank you for songs. I’m like, Damn, that’s. That that’s the hardest part. So this book talks about that. You know, it just talks about using your time wisely. And it also piggybacks off. Richest man in Babylon.

Nice. So at the time you said Flight Edge.

Yeah, that’s like, what was the author? That’s my edge.

I can’t say the office name.

Yeah, Jeff. So yeah, it’s funny.

Funny that I was like, Is he going to a book? A like, what is he going? I mean exactly what you just did. I mean literally like eight out of ten people that I interviewed all pretty much read books or audio books, or they work out when they do yoga, they do meditation. But it seems like book is a common denominator. So because of that, I decided to create a book club. So my next question was, do you have any books that you’re currently reading? Which obviously you are.

But what books help you on your your journey? What books would you want to recommend for the book club members to see? Kind of what were you reading as you were progressing.

Man, let me look at my library. So hold on.

It’s so funny when I always see somebody looking at their library, they always look up, look down, look around. It’s like like a six foot tall bookcase.

Yeah, man. Alright. So here’s I don’t bad and look at it. I would say one if you start now and this will help me to the main one. I would say it’s the energy bus for an entrepreneur if you try to get your team together. But if you just start out, I would say the richest man in Babylon because the richest man in Babylon talks about principles for Jesus was born that are still today. They’re still prevalent today. I I just wish, especially in our community. Some of these principles were talk were in school and it’s a short read too.

I mean, the book is like less than 100 pages so you can read the book in one day.

Easy. Definitely. But yeah, I definitely work out too. I mean, you right. Most entrepreneurs that are in this space that are successful. Actually, I don’t think I’m successful with the world would sound successful, but the units I sell and my income, well, I hold myself to a high stand, especially you being the game so long. Like, I don’t think else is sales and you got to stay hungry and motivated.

And I think that’s most people that are not entrepreneurs, they don’t understand it. They think that nine to five, they get paid six figures and they’re okay. But as an entrepreneur, we get paid six figures and we’re like, what the hell? We had a bad year. You’re like, how the hell did one year you get half a mill the next year, let’s say 325 or even 125. You’re like, Jesus, how the hell did I go backwards? And then the next year you triple it up and you continue to grow.

Actually, I’ve been in the same for the past three years. And this jump crazy.

Yeah. That’s the point of, like, this Jewish proverb that talks about lobster and a lobster has to become uncomfortable in order for it to break out of its shell. So you’re at that point, you got to get uncomfortable, man, in order for you to grow, you’re going to have to feel something that’s making you more so uncomfortable. And maybe it’s not the numbers. Maybe it’s something else.

And it’s crazy that you said that because. And I want to say, in seven, I took a box. And the reason I took out boxing is just what you said. You got to be comfortable being uncomfortable. And I can’t think of anything else. Will you force to be comfortable and it’s uncomfortable? You will cross the mole fo the want to whip you away every time.

Yes. Every time. As far as you said, I remember Mike Tyson was saying all that training goes out the door once you get punched in the face.

Yeah, man, it literally does. It literally does. It literally does it’s like, damn. And I ain’t never realized his box was because you look at on TV. So I mean, with that, it just taught me a lot because I Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay a year before was horrible. Brady come and went to Bow, but it’s a whole bunch. But still, it’s a whole bunch of people. You’re still a whole bunch of people boxing. It’s just you and that’s the other opponents. They can put you and I on Tampa Bay next year, they go to Soup Bowl and win it.

But if you are ready and you get in the boxing ring, it’s going to be real short. It’s going to be a rep, and you might wake up with a body part not working the next day.

Yeah. I took mix martial arts for a period of time there, and it was just kind of interesting that you say that because you could break an arm. You could get an arm bar and break arm. You could get choked out. You could get kicked in the head and be knocked out for 30 seconds. That is definitely real, even when you’re just sparring for fun.

Yeah. Yeah. And that’s crazy, too, because I don’t spoil or many times and do catch fellas. Nothing. I know. We fight like I thought this was you can’t quit, like, for really. This dude had a fight coming up, and it was like, right, a we’re gonna throw you in the ring with this dude. You got a fight coming up and he’s not going to swing at you. He just want to practice defense. I’m like, I hate that. Let’s go. May I called to clean a couple of times that last round.

It was a real fight, and I ain’t gonna lie. He was a heavy weight. I’m a buck 65. I was doing a lot of running. I ain’t even allowed to a lot to running.

A lot of cardio training.

So I was doing a lot of running because obviously I touched above, and I didn’t mean to do that.

Great. What do you see yourself in 20 years from now.

Man on the beach on where? Retired. I.

Managed. That’s a straight up answer. So currently, right now in your business, you’re working on your system, you’re working on your structure. I mean, what software do you use on a daily basis?

You would not be able to do your business without made real simple in this simple. And I think it’s free Google account. I mean, I have some fancy ones, but I can’t say I can’t live without them. But the Google calendar because I speak to so many people, I’m not ready calling me back in two months. What calendar? Oh, you really call back? Oh, you really remember Google Calen calendar for it like, my business, so I might catch somebody. Hey, I just pull it up. Gotta take the grocery in.

Call me back next week. Same day, same time Google calendar. My Google calendar. Sometimes it’s like blank, and then sometimes it’s even even.

Okay, okay. So going to the final words of wisdom. Let’s say I’m young, 20 year old, maybe 30, and I’m trying to maybe I want to get into real estate. What words of advice would you give to me to keep me to move forward on that journey?

I would definitely say. And I’ll show you and most people, unless you get on the rock, I would say, Man, listen to a because Gary V talk about how he sacrificed his 20. And now he’s reaping rewards from sacrificing his 20. And that’s the best way I can put it.

That’s definitely real. I mean, I would think anybody listens to the show has heard of Gary V. If you haven’t heard of Gary V, then I’m not sure what rock you slipping under, but in the first 30 seconds, he probably curse you out. So just FY search them out and be alarmed and not be alarmed at the same time. But what he says is definitely real. So, I mean, how can people find you? What’s? Your website, your social media profiles, your Yahoo account, your Twitter account, your everything YouTube account, what you got.

And you know what? It’s a shame. But I gotta look it up because my operations manager Hammers all that. So I got to look at my hammer. I got to look at it. So everything is the Haitian at that’s what everything is. I Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat comes, private club house coming.

So you need to hurry up and get on club house as well.

I just hired somebody to do my social media. I know we talked about it, but this person is substantially less. I hope that doesn’t mean that they work is less. But yes, fair enough.

As long as you get it rolling. That’s the most important thing, man is getting some of that contact. I mean, you got content for days and the houses you working on. I’ve seen some of the house that you worked on, and they’re phenomenal cribs. You could do MTV cribs just on the house that you’re working on. So you got to put them out there definitely going into the bones round, right. If you could spend 24 hours with anyone dead or alive, uninterrupted for those 24 hours, who would it be and why.

Uninterrupted uninterrupted.

24 hours, dead or alive?

Me. I’m gonna have to go Martin Luther King, cause I don’t think most people understand. Man, dude was educated. Dude had this doctorate, like, 20. It could have been a lawyer. It could have been paid, like, due was smart. Like, I don’t think people realize how smart he was. He died at 39. You know, how much work he had to put in the diet? 39. Most people think he like, little, like, 60, 70. Like, no, he died at 39. So I’d be like, man, I how could you sacrifice that much of your life?

And another thing people don’t realize because he had so many streets named after him and he loved. The man was hated. He was hated by black air white when he was killed. They love them now.

Yeah.

I would definitely say Martin Luther King. And then that’s probably Ali, because, you know, they they sacrifice so much. And now people look at them with such respect. But when they were, but when they were living in, I mean, it was they went to.

Yeah, I don’t think anybody in that generation, right. Are you talking about, like, Malcolm X was another one in that generation.

Yeah.

Sam Cook. Like, the more and more I look into Sam Cooks history, and his life is the more and more my mouth hits the floor every time it they came out with movies. Poro, man, there’s a bunch of them out at this point in time.

They ought to come out with a sale. Cook.

Malcolm X. Oh, you talk about the Miami is already out. Yeah, that was that was the first time, you know who sang Cook is, you know who these people are. But then I was like, just for shits and giggles. Let me look up what the networks were. So I look up Ali and Ali is close to, like, 100. Malcolm was like, it almost hurt me to say that Malcolm was like, 100,000, right. And then I’m looking at, like, the actor and he was like, 40. And then I look at San Cook.

San Cook was were like, 300 miles, like, 300 mill in that timeframe versus everyone else. You got to think about the work that he put in and he died before he was like, 42. So it was like it was crazy.

It was crazy. But I’m going to tell you it was real crazy. And I ain’t trying to take this left. But a lot of research shows that men, we go figure this thing out, call life till we get 40. I’m not saying Jack or who we did it on purpose. Well, it’s odd that Ali may not. I leave Marla the King and Michael Max were both killed when they were 39. So just think if all that before me and General figure out, like, 40, it’s crazy to see what they would have done at the 40 because both of them was like, you know what, man?

We’ve been going about this thing kind of wrong. Like me literally Cook. It was like, but they never got a chance. They met at the white. They bump teach other the White House. They spoke briefly. They was supposed to meet. And that thing, you know, a.

Crazy man. I like to your point, it has been interesting to see. I mean, it’s interesting to see anybody that would have made it past their original legacy because see your point? It’s like a turning point, right? Midlife crisis happened to everyone, and they didn’t have opportunity to even hit that mid life situation. So I definitely think that’s something interesting. Answers this is funny because you and I had a whole conversation about this next question, right. And I was telling you to go ahead and ask your team this question.

Do you remember that question?

No, I don’t remember.

If you could be a super hero, who would it be and why?

Oh, man, I forgot what I said. I forgot what I said the last time I told you about.

You said you’re going to go back and you had a meeting that day. You suposed to ask your team. That means at the meeting asking that question.

I don’t know what I said, but I’m gonna go at Black Hat is black. So I’m gonna go. A Black Panther is black history. We go black. And what Congress men like is coolest hair. Like, I love to go to Wisconsin.

Typically living in walkon to Atlanta. I mean, most of it shot hairs off.

Yeah. And that’s the sad part about it. And I wish that I wish that there was a way that we could show people how much opportunity like, I wish we’d be taking the spot light Wisconsin or Spots legacy where no brothers and sisters really getting to money or take the part of to cut you where the average is not black person. The average minority don’t have the opportunities they have here. Like, Atlanta got a lot of opportunities. Like, you can see it’s not because I know a lot of people come here and they shot, like, when they come here and got to go to, like, the courthouse or go to a bank and see you personally charge.

They so surprised that when it’s a minority, because in other parts of the country, still, you still gonna be dealing with someone white. You got to do anything. And I say the black. I’m just talking about so many minorities as black. And that’s why you see so many cultures here.

It’s becoming like New York. I mean, I grew up in Brooklyn. So, I mean, to your point, like that’s, New York, New York is epicenter for the multicultural. And to your point, I’ve been in land long enough to kind of see that shift for the longest. It was, you know, African American and Caucasian. And now it’s kind of like everyone else and everything in between.

No, I study trends, the highest ownership and the highest income earners are not black white. At their agent, I trans. I study finance. Oh, they get to it. And it’s crazy because they so silent about it. Yes, they make substantially higher than all other races, including what I can definitely see.

We went to Shanghai. I think it was like, two years ago and just to see Shanghai now and to see Shanghai 20 years ago, 20 years ago was farmland. And today it makes New York look like the hood. I it makes time square. Looks like they’re outdated. It’s completely night and day difference in 20 years. But then again, it’s a financial capital of Asia, too. So it’s definitely to your point. Once you get a system figured out and you know how to work that system.

Then you’re going to work it and pass it on to the next generation and pass it to the system because they’re rising and Latins arising and generally what it is. It’s just families because, unfortunately, people that Americanized, we don’t really cherish family or we don’t really have that family structure or family dynamics. And Latins agents tend still to have that infrastructure in place.

Got you. So this is the time of the podcast, man, when we talked about several different topics, talked about your business strategy, talked about where you are. So I always give whoever I’m interviewing opportunity to interview me if you have any questions, this is the time.

Oh, I told you, man, I’m loving that backdrop. So I need to get in contact with you for that bad drop, because that’s awesome, because my bad job sucks. I will be the first to admit it. I mean, when you came on, I was just like, man, I don’t need anyone to turn my camera on. Look at this back drop. Look at my bad drop. So that’s what I need. Like the bad drop, man, this phenomenal. That’s what I need. But, you know, as you stated, I’m new on my podcast journey, but still, I need that.

I need that.

Gotcha we definitely got you. It’s funny, man. When he interviewed me, on his podcast. Your camera wasn’t working and you try to pull that same thing coming on this podcast. And I was like, come on, man. People want to see a people want to see you, they can hear you. But eventually, this video is going to be published, too. So I definitely appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule, man, restarting the computer, getting the camera running and getting on the podcast today, brother.

Definitely, man. Definitely, definitely. Like I said, a serious bro. Let’s talk. I’m gonna email you probably tonight to remind you they see me where I can go for that.

Yeah, definitely. That goes without saying man again, man, I appreciate you coming out, man. And again, I look forward to seeing some other properties, and I’ve been following kind of what you’ve been doing. I’ve been watching your videos, and I think we have some commonalities with construction people as well, too. I think the with OT was it.

Yeah.

So it’s definitely some common footwork. But again, I think your crib should be on crypt. So I’m gonna keep on watching and keep on seeing you build the Empire that you’re building, brother.

I’m trying to try trying to appreciate it. Like I said, I just thank you for having me all and Amen. Like I said, I need that bad job, brother.

Got you. No problem, man. Over out.

Have a good thank you, too.